It’s insane that at a time where China are speeding ahead economically, Russia bringing North Korean soldiers to the doorstep of the West and the Middle East imploding we have America and Europe disconnecting from each other. Europe and America share deep historical and cultural ties. We should be coming together, not tearing ourselves apart. What a great laugh this must be for Putin.
No_Honey4918 on
Just arrest zelensky the cokehead gay actor pretending to be president who got installed trough a fake eu/usa secret service agents coup.
Casual-Speedrunner-7 on
Europe expects America to act against Russia while Macron runs around saying Europe shouldn’t involve itself against China.
How helpful will Europe be in the Asia-Pacific? A comparable commitment of troops & equipment? Or even sanctions?
pauldavis1234 on
America has destroyed our ability to obtain cheap energy.
America is currently obtaining the most productive, fertile land in Europe for their benefit.
They are not abandoning Europe, they are deliberately destroying it.
European s are too blind to see.
reditash on
If America want to move away from Europe – OK.
But, do not be surprised when Germany signs new Molotov Ribentrop pact.
XWasTheProblem on
At this point I’m starting to silently hope they do, just so the cretins in charge stop trying to whore the continent out to America and actually put some bloody effort in at least TRYING to move forward.
I don’t want to be a fucking American colony.
BasedBalkaner on
A strategic mistake for the US but a win for the EU
the less dependent we are on the US for the protection the better for EU
Mba1956 on
As America moves away from Europe it will see less sales, especially military spending. It will see its military bases taken back. America will go back to being a country so internal focused that it decline.
wpkorben on
The US is more dangerous for Europe than Russia or China. We must break ties with the US. They are a sick country, they are the main threat facing the entire planet.
Unhappy_Surround_982 on
No shit. Americans really have poor long term memory. I guess we will need a new World War before they’re reminded again…
AlpsSad1364 on
American obsession with China is mainly a matter of economic pride, not power. China is no military threat to the US and in any case is 6000 miles away.
Russia on the other hand has more nukes than the US, shares a maritime border and is openly hostile and actively sabotaging US and allied infrastructure and interfering in their political process.
If the US forgets that the real threat is Russia it will come back to bite it hard on the ass.
A Europe facing US hostility is likely to turn to closer relations with China, which is a bigger potential market and of no military threat whatsoever. A tie up that neutralised Russia (not hard – they rely entirely on China) would leave the world divided into two superpower blocs once again, only this time America would be the smaller more isolated one.
nv87 on
I thought we were at the point where we need to start worrying about America invading Europe.
Isn’t everything Trump proposes a strategic mistake? Imo the guy is a traitorous idiot.
zx100030 on
MEGA(Make Europe Great Again) /s
whatulookingforboi on
moving away from the one the richest markets is just braindead move clearly someone profits from this
Lennyleonard_ on
With Russia all but decimated it won’t be such a bad thing for America to leave thus forcing us to look after our own defence and our own interests.
DABOSSROSS9 on
The narrative shift from you guys is wild. You act as of things changed last time when trump is president.
DingoCertain on
You think Trump cares of what is good for his own country? It should be clear by now his only interest is his own pocket and ego. People also said Putin would never invade Ukraine because that would be economically unwise for Russia.
Valuable-Ad3975 on
Under Trumps presidency the US are going to find themselves isolated. They export over $3 trillion a year in goods and services, if no one wants their goods the economy will collapse. I worked with Americans most of my adult life and they are concerned things are going to go down a rabbit hole quickly once Trump takes over.
BluePomegranate12 on
It’s not a mistake if it is the objective…
Clearly Trump is a Russian asset, and this fits their objective.
GrowingHeadache on
I hear surprisingly little about how we are going to handle the fall out of this. Because like it or not, our economies are really dependent and we are very militarily dependent. Let’s take the steps to move away, while hoping that it is not necessary
Thomvhar on
I can’t wait for them to leave. We need allies, yes. But the US is too unstable politically. Every US presidency has our European leaders puzzling for solutions to combat economic problems and global threats.
We, as Europeans, should be able to make our own diplomatic decisions. Militarily, we’re still missing a strong defensive power projection. But I hope our leaders take note and put more effort into making sure we can face foreign aggression without active US interference.
I would even go as far as to say that we should take a stronger stance on Greenland’s interests and cement closer ties with countries like Canada.
nightviper81 on
I think Americans are tired of Europe and Europeans in general tired of having to constantly protect them tired of funding NATO Americans are just plain sick of Europe
Fun_Performer_5170 on
That’s not the question. The question is why should europe continue to rely on a unserious partner
Gansematthias on
I think we Europeans will be in some sort of Game of Thrones situation when we will build a fucking wall and live happily after
notmyfirstrodeo2 on
russian olligarchs knows that, that’s why they bought up half the people in congress and house.
BarskiPatzow on
EU feels like Yugoslavia in the ‘80s at the moment
bandita07 on
EU must find her balls and fight back.
LoneWolf_McQuade on
I think Europe now is getting to know America as it treats the rest of the world.
wAAkie on
Did they forget about lineage?
drkravens on
I am also amazed how some people writing articles think they are just better than those in charge of strategy in various countries and they just figured out something nobody else noticed 😀
DarthPistolius on
Electing Trump was a strategic mistake.
PanickyFool on
As Macron said it would be a mistake for us to get stuck between a china / USA conflict that has nothing to do with us.
It is a mistake for the USA to get stuck between us and our conflict with Russia.
No European leader disagreed with Macron, so we are basically telling the USA to f off.
inb4ElonMusk on
Trust me, we’ll be making a lot of strategic mistakes over the next 4 years.
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It’s insane that at a time where China are speeding ahead economically, Russia bringing North Korean soldiers to the doorstep of the West and the Middle East imploding we have America and Europe disconnecting from each other. Europe and America share deep historical and cultural ties. We should be coming together, not tearing ourselves apart. What a great laugh this must be for Putin.
Just arrest zelensky the cokehead gay actor pretending to be president who got installed trough a fake eu/usa secret service agents coup.
Europe expects America to act against Russia while Macron runs around saying Europe shouldn’t involve itself against China.
How helpful will Europe be in the Asia-Pacific? A comparable commitment of troops & equipment? Or even sanctions?
America has destroyed our ability to obtain cheap energy.
America is currently obtaining the most productive, fertile land in Europe for their benefit.
They are not abandoning Europe, they are deliberately destroying it.
European s are too blind to see.
If America want to move away from Europe – OK.
But, do not be surprised when Germany signs new Molotov Ribentrop pact.
At this point I’m starting to silently hope they do, just so the cretins in charge stop trying to whore the continent out to America and actually put some bloody effort in at least TRYING to move forward.
I don’t want to be a fucking American colony.
A strategic mistake for the US but a win for the EU
the less dependent we are on the US for the protection the better for EU
As America moves away from Europe it will see less sales, especially military spending. It will see its military bases taken back. America will go back to being a country so internal focused that it decline.
The US is more dangerous for Europe than Russia or China. We must break ties with the US. They are a sick country, they are the main threat facing the entire planet.
No shit. Americans really have poor long term memory. I guess we will need a new World War before they’re reminded again…
American obsession with China is mainly a matter of economic pride, not power. China is no military threat to the US and in any case is 6000 miles away.
Russia on the other hand has more nukes than the US, shares a maritime border and is openly hostile and actively sabotaging US and allied infrastructure and interfering in their political process.
If the US forgets that the real threat is Russia it will come back to bite it hard on the ass.
A Europe facing US hostility is likely to turn to closer relations with China, which is a bigger potential market and of no military threat whatsoever. A tie up that neutralised Russia (not hard – they rely entirely on China) would leave the world divided into two superpower blocs once again, only this time America would be the smaller more isolated one.
I thought we were at the point where we need to start worrying about America invading Europe.
Isn’t everything Trump proposes a strategic mistake? Imo the guy is a traitorous idiot.
MEGA(Make Europe Great Again) /s
moving away from the one the richest markets is just braindead move clearly someone profits from this
With Russia all but decimated it won’t be such a bad thing for America to leave thus forcing us to look after our own defence and our own interests.
The narrative shift from you guys is wild. You act as of things changed last time when trump is president.
You think Trump cares of what is good for his own country? It should be clear by now his only interest is his own pocket and ego. People also said Putin would never invade Ukraine because that would be economically unwise for Russia.
Under Trumps presidency the US are going to find themselves isolated. They export over $3 trillion a year in goods and services, if no one wants their goods the economy will collapse. I worked with Americans most of my adult life and they are concerned things are going to go down a rabbit hole quickly once Trump takes over.
It’s not a mistake if it is the objective…
Clearly Trump is a Russian asset, and this fits their objective.
I hear surprisingly little about how we are going to handle the fall out of this. Because like it or not, our economies are really dependent and we are very militarily dependent. Let’s take the steps to move away, while hoping that it is not necessary
I can’t wait for them to leave. We need allies, yes. But the US is too unstable politically. Every US presidency has our European leaders puzzling for solutions to combat economic problems and global threats.
We, as Europeans, should be able to make our own diplomatic decisions. Militarily, we’re still missing a strong defensive power projection. But I hope our leaders take note and put more effort into making sure we can face foreign aggression without active US interference.
I would even go as far as to say that we should take a stronger stance on Greenland’s interests and cement closer ties with countries like Canada.
I think Americans are tired of Europe and Europeans in general tired of having to constantly protect them tired of funding NATO Americans are just plain sick of Europe
That’s not the question. The question is why should europe continue to rely on a unserious partner
I think we Europeans will be in some sort of Game of Thrones situation when we will build a fucking wall and live happily after
russian olligarchs knows that, that’s why they bought up half the people in congress and house.
EU feels like Yugoslavia in the ‘80s at the moment
EU must find her balls and fight back.
I think Europe now is getting to know America as it treats the rest of the world.
Did they forget about lineage?
I am also amazed how some people writing articles think they are just better than those in charge of strategy in various countries and they just figured out something nobody else noticed 😀
Electing Trump was a strategic mistake.
As Macron said it would be a mistake for us to get stuck between a china / USA conflict that has nothing to do with us.
It is a mistake for the USA to get stuck between us and our conflict with Russia.
No European leader disagreed with Macron, so we are basically telling the USA to f off.
Trust me, we’ll be making a lot of strategic mistakes over the next 4 years.