Is it time for the weekly “ireland leaching off NATO/The Brits” post already?
boyga01 on
The only Submarine we ever had was in Crumlin. 🙁
boardsmember2017 on
We can see this trench warfare in our future, you only have to look at the Russians blowing up the gas pipeline a couple of years ago. We should be defending the cables at all costs. They are of such strategic importance to the EU
It’s not an all or nothing situation. We don’t need to build up capabilities for all out total war. But we do need some capacity to patrol our waters and skies. If we invested more in our navy and drone capabilities and cyber security we would be in a much more secure position.
10 years ago it would have seemed like a waste of money. But after the HSE attack, Russia invading Ukraine and China building up their army in preparation of an attack on Taiwan I think it’s foolish if we don’t try to have some basic level of defence for the country.
Environmental-Net286 on
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with trump, especially with his manifest destiny shit going on
But yeah, we probably need to spend more on defense
Chester_roaster on
Calls from who? There’s no International law that says Ireland must protect those privately owned cables.
CrypticNebular on
We do seem to operate in la la land when it comes to defence. We don’t need anything huge, but we do need to be able to at least know what’s going on in our territorial waters and be able to robustly eject vessels doing anything dodgy.
Sciprio on
Nothing stopping them going further out into the Atlantic to mess with the cables there, and no amount of defence spending will help that. I’m not totally against defence spending, but i feel the money can be better spent elsewhere like infrastructure.
I couldn’t stomach us throwing away millions a year to the foreign defence industry for hardly any benefit to the Irish people except for our government to get patted on the head by foreign leaders.
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Is it time for the weekly “ireland leaching off NATO/The Brits” post already?
The only Submarine we ever had was in Crumlin. 🙁
We can see this trench warfare in our future, you only have to look at the Russians blowing up the gas pipeline a couple of years ago. We should be defending the cables at all costs. They are of such strategic importance to the EU
Ireland does need some defence capability against rogue states and actors. We need to contribute towards the defence of our part of Europe. Having Irish naval ships going out to sea with [broken guns](https://www.thejournal.ie/high-level-crisis-meeting-among-defence-forces-chiefs-as-naval-gun-crisis-deepens-6602434-Jan2025/) is pathetic.
It’s not an all or nothing situation. We don’t need to build up capabilities for all out total war. But we do need some capacity to patrol our waters and skies. If we invested more in our navy and drone capabilities and cyber security we would be in a much more secure position.
10 years ago it would have seemed like a waste of money. But after the HSE attack, Russia invading Ukraine and China building up their army in preparation of an attack on Taiwan I think it’s foolish if we don’t try to have some basic level of defence for the country.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with trump, especially with his manifest destiny shit going on
But yeah, we probably need to spend more on defense
Calls from who? There’s no International law that says Ireland must protect those privately owned cables.
We do seem to operate in la la land when it comes to defence. We don’t need anything huge, but we do need to be able to at least know what’s going on in our territorial waters and be able to robustly eject vessels doing anything dodgy.
Nothing stopping them going further out into the Atlantic to mess with the cables there, and no amount of defence spending will help that. I’m not totally against defence spending, but i feel the money can be better spent elsewhere like infrastructure.
I couldn’t stomach us throwing away millions a year to the foreign defence industry for hardly any benefit to the Irish people except for our government to get patted on the head by foreign leaders.