This is fine. The EU needs its own army. Time to build and move away from American influence.
Shot_Bison1140 on
We should start to push for and spread on media “USA is to big for us Americans, we want to break it up into smaller independent countries” spread the word.
nolnogax on
Unsurprising. The US will leave NATO anyway before invading Greenland. Putin can’t stop rubbing one out over this.
Big_Prick_On_Ya on
The last few years have really made me test my thoughts on Europe and the future of Europe. I’m deeply disappointed in our so called “leaders” response to Russian aggression and now the whole Greenland affair. The complete stasis and absolute inertia to do anything significant is deeply pathetic. [We’re just happy to let Greenland go and join Trump in a Compact of Free Association Agreement so that he gets unrestricted access to all the rare earth minerals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OvuRPeYgk&ab_channel=CNBC) used in the production of technology whether military or otherwise – they should be OUR minerals!
It’s really made me question the vision for Europe. Maybe the Draghi Report was right and Europe is in decline. Since the 1970s Europe has not created a single solitary company with a market cap of 100 Billion – in that same timeframe America has created several trillion dollar companies – Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Berkshire Hathaway, Meta, Amazon, Nvidia etc etc
In 2008 when Barrack Obama was elected President the Eurozone economy was the same size as the American economy. Today, the American economy is almost twice as large as the Eurozone economy. That’s the mathematics of it. Anything to the contrary is merely an emotional response – not a scientific one. China has overtaken us as the second largest economy in the world. Perhaps our best days are behind us because we will never be able to project outward a sign of strength in the world if we don’t federalise. All those great leaders throughout the centuries in Europe…..where are you all now?! We need you more than ever.
ViennaLager on
Around 1.5m active military personel in Europe and 2.3m reserves. Pretty sure we will be fine without these 20k troops.
WB_Benelux on
Generals must be squirming now… Pulling out of Europe means the US will lose a lot of capacity to project power in africa, middle east and asia.
TaniTanium on
Great news. It would be really awkward to have 100.000 POWs when the US starts invading an allied nation.
Chaosmeister_Alex on
He’s gonna need troops to…liberate Greenland and the Panama Canal.
And tbh, Europe needs its own armies and to stop relying on Americans so much. Trump is right on this thing.
PrincessGambit on
20k out of the 100k that are here. 80k will still be here (at least for now).
Alternative-Copy7027 on
I am kind of glad they leave voluntarily. It would have been a bother to make them leave when Trump attacks Greenland and Nato implodes.
Bromomancer on
One future invasion force less to worry about.
kakao_w_proszku on
Over the last 3-4 years I was somewhat uneasy about but ultimately supported the high military spending plans of the last 2 Polish governments. Seeing headlines like these makes me think we made the right call after all.
Goahead-makemytea on
Did anyone actually read the article?
white26golf on
These troops are the ones that are in the eastern European countries on a rotational basis that started around 2016; not ones that are permanently stationed in western Europe.
Lithuania and Estonia has said they will pledge 5% towards defense right after this was announced.
schmeckfest2000 on
FINALLY.
We need to stop thinking that we need the US in Europe.
If the US wants their military in Europe, then they should fucking pay for it.
zerginc on
Can we start stationing European troops in Greenland pretty pls.
ChosenOfTheMoon_GR on
And who benefits from this, Russia, how, “expected”.. /s
Scrolling_for_cats on
This is history repeating itself. It is the normal evolution at the end of an empire era. History saw French big business evolve from supporting the empire before World War I to seeing it as a waste of money by the 1950s, largely due to its falling importance in world trade. The 1950s were also critical years in economic decolonization for Britain’s trading interest as they shifted away from the empire-Commonwealth. USA is evolving through the same as it slows in economic relevance on the global stage, losing ground to the likes of China who is building an economic empire witnessed with “one belt one road”
wombat6168 on
Another way to encourage Europe to unite,build up it’s own weapons industry and stop buying American hardware
Farther_Dm53 on
Yeah 20k troops really isn’t that much, and we constantly rotate troops in and out of europe… Thats not the biggest news trump has done o.o
Moosplauze on
Poor US soldiers, now have to go home to the shit they voted for.
Relative-Tune85 on
Good riddance!
ClickF0rDick on
Fuck these misleading headlines. It’s a minor percentage of the US troops, the wording gave me anxiety thinking he was pulling the whole US presence on the continent, which as crazy as it sounds wouldn’t be that out of place in the current timeline
wordswillneverhurtme on
I think its a perfect incentive for EU to replace US troops with their own. We need to rebuild our military anyways so it’s better to spend on our own than on USA troops.
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https://www.euractiv.com/section/defence/news/germany-spent-over-1-billion-to-cover-costs-linked-to-us-troops-presence/
I guess we don’t have to pay this anymore, right
This is fine. The EU needs its own army. Time to build and move away from American influence.
We should start to push for and spread on media “USA is to big for us Americans, we want to break it up into smaller independent countries” spread the word.
Unsurprising. The US will leave NATO anyway before invading Greenland. Putin can’t stop rubbing one out over this.
The last few years have really made me test my thoughts on Europe and the future of Europe. I’m deeply disappointed in our so called “leaders” response to Russian aggression and now the whole Greenland affair. The complete stasis and absolute inertia to do anything significant is deeply pathetic. [We’re just happy to let Greenland go and join Trump in a Compact of Free Association Agreement so that he gets unrestricted access to all the rare earth minerals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OvuRPeYgk&ab_channel=CNBC) used in the production of technology whether military or otherwise – they should be OUR minerals!
It’s really made me question the vision for Europe. Maybe the Draghi Report was right and Europe is in decline. Since the 1970s Europe has not created a single solitary company with a market cap of 100 Billion – in that same timeframe America has created several trillion dollar companies – Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Berkshire Hathaway, Meta, Amazon, Nvidia etc etc
In 2008 when Barrack Obama was elected President the Eurozone economy was the same size as the American economy. Today, the American economy is almost twice as large as the Eurozone economy. That’s the mathematics of it. Anything to the contrary is merely an emotional response – not a scientific one. China has overtaken us as the second largest economy in the world. Perhaps our best days are behind us because we will never be able to project outward a sign of strength in the world if we don’t federalise. All those great leaders throughout the centuries in Europe…..where are you all now?! We need you more than ever.
Around 1.5m active military personel in Europe and 2.3m reserves. Pretty sure we will be fine without these 20k troops.
Generals must be squirming now… Pulling out of Europe means the US will lose a lot of capacity to project power in africa, middle east and asia.
Great news. It would be really awkward to have 100.000 POWs when the US starts invading an allied nation.
He’s gonna need troops to…liberate Greenland and the Panama Canal.
And tbh, Europe needs its own armies and to stop relying on Americans so much. Trump is right on this thing.
20k out of the 100k that are here. 80k will still be here (at least for now).
I am kind of glad they leave voluntarily. It would have been a bother to make them leave when Trump attacks Greenland and Nato implodes.
One future invasion force less to worry about.
Over the last 3-4 years I was somewhat uneasy about but ultimately supported the high military spending plans of the last 2 Polish governments. Seeing headlines like these makes me think we made the right call after all.
Did anyone actually read the article?
These troops are the ones that are in the eastern European countries on a rotational basis that started around 2016; not ones that are permanently stationed in western Europe.
Lithuania and Estonia has said they will pledge 5% towards defense right after this was announced.
FINALLY.
We need to stop thinking that we need the US in Europe.
If the US wants their military in Europe, then they should fucking pay for it.
Can we start stationing European troops in Greenland pretty pls.
And who benefits from this, Russia, how, “expected”.. /s
This is history repeating itself. It is the normal evolution at the end of an empire era. History saw French big business evolve from supporting the empire before World War I to seeing it as a waste of money by the 1950s, largely due to its falling importance in world trade. The 1950s were also critical years in economic decolonization for Britain’s trading interest as they shifted away from the empire-Commonwealth. USA is evolving through the same as it slows in economic relevance on the global stage, losing ground to the likes of China who is building an economic empire witnessed with “one belt one road”
Another way to encourage Europe to unite,build up it’s own weapons industry and stop buying American hardware
Yeah 20k troops really isn’t that much, and we constantly rotate troops in and out of europe… Thats not the biggest news trump has done o.o
Poor US soldiers, now have to go home to the shit they voted for.
Good riddance!
Fuck these misleading headlines. It’s a minor percentage of the US troops, the wording gave me anxiety thinking he was pulling the whole US presence on the continent, which as crazy as it sounds wouldn’t be that out of place in the current timeline
I think its a perfect incentive for EU to replace US troops with their own. We need to rebuild our military anyways so it’s better to spend on our own than on USA troops.
They should all leave