Can sb bring me up to speed? In which ways is the CDU cooperating with the far-right?
Goldkrom on
Considering how big AFD became, it will be harder and harder to succeed in passing bills in parliament without their votes.
eucariota92 on
Considering that the AfD was the direct result of her policies… I don’t think she is the best person to criticize Merz.
MotherMilks99 on
Merkel stepping in to scold Merz is like a retired teacher showing up to class just to say, “I’m not mad, just disappointed.”
Chauzx on
Funny how she is complaining about that while ignoring her role in creating a feeling in the people that they need a far-right party to reverse most of her policies.
VikingsStillExist on
Merkel still does not understand that she created the circumstances for this to happen.
Fit-Factor-4789 on
Could somebody criticize her for cooperating with the Russian far-right government?
fcar on
That’s rich coming from the West’s number one Putin enabler…
Will-Of-D-3D2Y on
She is not wrong. When PVV started gaining more ground in the Netherlands, other right wing parties like VVD who previously didn’t want to work with them thought they could steal some voters back by saying they are open to collaborate with PVV. All it accomplished was that they normalized the PVV in people’s eyes and caused more people to vote for them.
A big mistake happening now in politics everywhere (see also Harris’ campaign against Trump) is that many parties believe by leaning further right they can win votes from the ‘sensible right wing voters’ against the extreme right wing. But they all fail to understand that right wing voters already have their pick to vote for so they gain little while they are actively losing left/centrist voters who become disillusioned with the party’s leaning to the right.
Then as the right wing takeover continues they will blame the disillusioned voters for not voting for ‘the lesser evil’ as if people should be fine making compromise after compromise because the political leaders are populist trend chasers.
pc0999 on
For once she is right, a rare thing
onuldo on
Funny, because Merkel (a disguised Green) in a conservative party made the AfD into a big and competitive party in Germany with her policies. Can you blame people or AfD for resisting Merkel? I don’t think so.
Helmic4 on
Merkel is mad that someone took immigration seriously, in other words water is wet
Chaos_Slug on
The policies CDU is now putting forward to “solve” the “problem” are, and the CDU knows it, illegal under the current European treaties Germany is a part of.
If they convince they voters that these policies are what is needed to “solve” the “problem,” what’s gonna happen when the CJEU says you can not do these policies as long as you are in the EU?
Merz has started a path that eventually leads to Dexit.
NeedTheSpeed on
Oh and who made the far right this big? Whose policies did that?
Also who wanted NS2?
All of this was a ground work for the mess that she is now critizicinzg, zero self reflection
philsnyo on
I‘ve always been a fan of Angie on a lot of topics and while she‘s not wrong here, I don’t think it’s appropriate for her to sit on the high horse, when she’s the one who steered the country into all this mess regarding migration. Politicians have to get their hands dirty now to clean up her mistakes.
myrmonden on
Well Merkel is the one that really created the party
Keanu990321 on
Merkel herself didn’t mind co-operating with Vladimir Putin, a human-rights violator.
HASMAD1 on
Natural allies of fascists and nazi parties are conservatives. They did in the past, they’re doing it now, in several countries around the world. Let’s not forget that.
cookiesnooper on
I think she should just not speak because everything that is happening right now is her fault.
EvolvedRevolution on
“Former chancellor that caused horrible consequences with her policy grapples with the consequences of her actions”.
Merkel needs to take responsibility for her out of place idealism and what it created in German society. The errors will have to be righted in the years ahead. For Merkel the only question should be how she wants to be remembered, and it appears she is taking the famous double down approach.
In short: Angela learned nothing.
morbihann on
The far right’s rise is directly tied to the decade and a half of her policy.
Socmel_ on
Nice sentiment, but when she was chancellor and leader of the CDU, the EPP tolerated an enemy of democracy like Orban in their group for years.
A bit hypocritical of her to point fingers when she showed willingness to cooperate with someone like Orban
boomeronkelralf on
Die Afd only exists because of Merkel
anonymousUser96_ on
Everyone on Reddit keeps going on about the “immigration crisis” and how drastic measures need to be taken but nobody ever explains why immigration is a problem at all
BadOdd1861 on
She’s the worst politician in the last hundred years and her every policy has been an abject disaster for Germany and Europe. The old hag needs to be fully denounced and forcibly ejected from public life. The raw arrogance and audacity that she still displays is grotesque. She genuinely needs to shut up and hope nobody remembers she exists, yet she keeps forcing herself into the public sphere again and again.
Cybernaut-Neko on
Church and nazi’s that shit again.
Pedro_P11 on
Now, the former Stasi member Angela Merkel is giving moral lessons after being the worst European politician since 1945.
pantrokator-bezsens on
I would argue that this is fallout of her open border policy during refugee crisis that resulted in surge of AfD popularity.
LazyZeus on
Rich from Merkel, since she even now can’t admit wrongdoing to cooperating with Russian nazi state for years even after 2008 occupation of Georgia, and 2014 occupation of Ukraine.
lockheed_f104 on
Which rock did she crawl out from?
Ok-Quote-9509 on
You create a problem, losing in the course of that action any credibility you or your party could have that you are against mass migration, and then you cry because AfD is at 20%.
I would never vote for AfD, but if they get second place (like the Nazis did in 1930, and then got first place in 1933) it will be her fault.
EmployerEfficient141 on
This is literally the result of her mindless “politics”.
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Can sb bring me up to speed? In which ways is the CDU cooperating with the far-right?
Considering how big AFD became, it will be harder and harder to succeed in passing bills in parliament without their votes.
Considering that the AfD was the direct result of her policies… I don’t think she is the best person to criticize Merz.
Merkel stepping in to scold Merz is like a retired teacher showing up to class just to say, “I’m not mad, just disappointed.”
Funny how she is complaining about that while ignoring her role in creating a feeling in the people that they need a far-right party to reverse most of her policies.
Merkel still does not understand that she created the circumstances for this to happen.
Could somebody criticize her for cooperating with the Russian far-right government?
That’s rich coming from the West’s number one Putin enabler…
She is not wrong. When PVV started gaining more ground in the Netherlands, other right wing parties like VVD who previously didn’t want to work with them thought they could steal some voters back by saying they are open to collaborate with PVV. All it accomplished was that they normalized the PVV in people’s eyes and caused more people to vote for them.
A big mistake happening now in politics everywhere (see also Harris’ campaign against Trump) is that many parties believe by leaning further right they can win votes from the ‘sensible right wing voters’ against the extreme right wing. But they all fail to understand that right wing voters already have their pick to vote for so they gain little while they are actively losing left/centrist voters who become disillusioned with the party’s leaning to the right.
Then as the right wing takeover continues they will blame the disillusioned voters for not voting for ‘the lesser evil’ as if people should be fine making compromise after compromise because the political leaders are populist trend chasers.
For once she is right, a rare thing
Funny, because Merkel (a disguised Green) in a conservative party made the AfD into a big and competitive party in Germany with her policies. Can you blame people or AfD for resisting Merkel? I don’t think so.
Merkel is mad that someone took immigration seriously, in other words water is wet
The policies CDU is now putting forward to “solve” the “problem” are, and the CDU knows it, illegal under the current European treaties Germany is a part of.
If they convince they voters that these policies are what is needed to “solve” the “problem,” what’s gonna happen when the CJEU says you can not do these policies as long as you are in the EU?
Merz has started a path that eventually leads to Dexit.
Oh and who made the far right this big? Whose policies did that?
Also who wanted NS2?
All of this was a ground work for the mess that she is now critizicinzg, zero self reflection
I‘ve always been a fan of Angie on a lot of topics and while she‘s not wrong here, I don’t think it’s appropriate for her to sit on the high horse, when she’s the one who steered the country into all this mess regarding migration. Politicians have to get their hands dirty now to clean up her mistakes.
Well Merkel is the one that really created the party
Merkel herself didn’t mind co-operating with Vladimir Putin, a human-rights violator.
Natural allies of fascists and nazi parties are conservatives. They did in the past, they’re doing it now, in several countries around the world. Let’s not forget that.
I think she should just not speak because everything that is happening right now is her fault.
“Former chancellor that caused horrible consequences with her policy grapples with the consequences of her actions”.
Merkel needs to take responsibility for her out of place idealism and what it created in German society. The errors will have to be righted in the years ahead. For Merkel the only question should be how she wants to be remembered, and it appears she is taking the famous double down approach.
In short: Angela learned nothing.
The far right’s rise is directly tied to the decade and a half of her policy.
Nice sentiment, but when she was chancellor and leader of the CDU, the EPP tolerated an enemy of democracy like Orban in their group for years.
A bit hypocritical of her to point fingers when she showed willingness to cooperate with someone like Orban
Die Afd only exists because of Merkel
Everyone on Reddit keeps going on about the “immigration crisis” and how drastic measures need to be taken but nobody ever explains why immigration is a problem at all
She’s the worst politician in the last hundred years and her every policy has been an abject disaster for Germany and Europe. The old hag needs to be fully denounced and forcibly ejected from public life. The raw arrogance and audacity that she still displays is grotesque. She genuinely needs to shut up and hope nobody remembers she exists, yet she keeps forcing herself into the public sphere again and again.
Church and nazi’s that shit again.
Now, the former Stasi member Angela Merkel is giving moral lessons after being the worst European politician since 1945.
I would argue that this is fallout of her open border policy during refugee crisis that resulted in surge of AfD popularity.
Rich from Merkel, since she even now can’t admit wrongdoing to cooperating with Russian nazi state for years even after 2008 occupation of Georgia, and 2014 occupation of Ukraine.
Which rock did she crawl out from?
You create a problem, losing in the course of that action any credibility you or your party could have that you are against mass migration, and then you cry because AfD is at 20%.
I would never vote for AfD, but if they get second place (like the Nazis did in 1930, and then got first place in 1933) it will be her fault.
This is literally the result of her mindless “politics”.
Merkel should just stfu probably.