Voi persone volete parlare di energia tedesca? Questo è il grafico che conta.
di mithie007
Voi persone volete parlare di energia tedesca? Questo è il grafico che conta.
di mithie007
25 commenti
Yes, the growth is quite impressive. There are other graphs and tables that also matter, but by all means, talk just about this one.
If they can sustain themselves without the substitutes it’s fine. On your energy bill you used to see exactly what You had to pay extra just to make this trend happen as a separate cost.
Why do they only consider the first nine months of each year for making the graph?
Oh look, it’s the weekly german energy circlejerk.
Nope, it is consumption that really matters, not generation. Especially with intermittence.
Itd be a lot more impressive if we saw fossile decline. Also germany, please, go for nuclear power. Its the greenest of them all.
Very disingenuous graph if it doesn’t include what the remaining percent of Energy Generation is. If it switched from being a lot of nuclear to coal and other fossil fuels for even 5 years, then that’s proof that Germany’s policy was an abject failure. Which it was.
Stop defending policy that the German population chose due to continuing to be hyper-sensitive to propaganda 70 years after the last time that you guys fell for propaganda this idiotic.
It was a huge fuck up. Stop defending the fuck up. Acknowledge that it was a fuck up. Even a few weeks ago that fuck up cost your European neighbors millions due to your lack of energy production. Wait until you’ve actually fixed your fuck up before you bring it up. If Germany spent as much energy supporting renewables as it did collectively bitching about everyone else laughing about its newly reopened coal mines, it may have been able to sustain itself on renewables by now.
[No, this is the graph that matters.](https://i.imgur.com/ET30hC4.jpeg)
Coal could have been phased out completely by now and gas partially. Germany choose to shut down clean generation and retain dirty generation (then slowly work on reducing it). You can twist logic as much as you want, but that was the political decision made.
I’ll always congratulate you guys for pushing renewable, you have my admiration and my respect.
But you’re still dumb for going 0 Nuclear! Balancing solar, hydro, wind and Nuclear would definitely make Germany the greenest country on earth.
Now show the coal percentage
You mean graph that shows that renewables has an increasing share of Germany’s dropping total electricity generation? Like, it would grow just by stagnating as the total electricity production dropped by 16 % between 2019 and 2023?
I wouldn’t be so cocky about it, tbh.
IMO, the only KPI that really matters is total carbon intensity.
Okay, great … now lets see €/MWh …
I guess the prices went down at the same %.
Nice. Now add imports
Sorry but no. The share of energy in % gives all the info you need.
> You people want to talk about German energy? THIS is the graph that matters.
Not really, this chart is hardly sufficient.
And I would argue that consumption was not chosen, while being the proper metric, especially when your grid is mainly intermittent.
I mean, since nuclear phase out, Germany has never been autonomous and still is not.
What about the other 40%? Frankly, I disagree with the title.
Shares of generation are completely bs what is important is the shares of consumption. These are completely different since we have very high production that goes far beyond what we need to fullfill the energy needs from Germany on a sunny & stormy day. That’s also the reason why we have sometimes negative energy prices in the summer since we produce more then we consume.
Therefore we need to be able to store the energy before we continue expanding the production of solae and wind energy.
This is in percentage.
The percentage of wind and solar can increase at the same time the energy produced in Germany can decrease.
What about MWh?
Rather impressive, but why close the Atomic power then?
Then it could all be more or less co2 free…
Now you have green power and Black coal power or Russian gas….
People suggesting to start using nuclear reactors again: google “The Soeder Challenge”
No. The graph that matters is that our energy prices are among the highest in the world. If we have so much green energy, it should be cheap.
So more than 40% of german electricity comes from fossil fuels ? After so many years that’s what you got ? A triple digit emission factor ? We should unironically reduce your population by 41% as punishment for this .