Le relazioni statunitensi con l’Europa non saranno mai le stesse dopo la chiamata di Trump con Putin

I think Europe will once again find understanding and forgive, just as we have so many times before for those who have played us.

I surely hope that they will never be the same, because Trump’s call with Putin was a metaphorical celebratory 100th wake up call for Europe.

It’s incredible that it took an orange power hungry imbecile from the US to make people, myself included, identify as an ‘European’ more than ever before. All the problems my country has seem miniscule compared to what’s coming to our whole continent in the coming years and I’ve realised that way too late.

Definitely.

Especially when Canada joins the EU.

Europe should have wakened up already when he won first time, or even before that. We must work more closely together, no matter if the nation is in NATO or the EU or not. We have to set up an european military force to at least equal Russia and start throwing military power. The US is not to be trusted anymore.

If we fail this, we will only succumb to Russian power. And we’ll deserve it, too.

history seems to always repeat itself. Europe woke up too late. all of this could have been prevented in 2014, but no one bat an eye.

And of course, that is clear since the first day of the invasion, Crimea won’t be part of Ukranian territory, that train has moved on.

Hopefully, there is still something that can be achieved, but Europe needs to start looking inside and diverting resources to improve its place in current world affairs. And the sad true is that we are really lagging behind and thus, we have such calls, between those two.

>and said the US would prioritize its growing clash with China and the security of its borders over Europe’s.

Why they are so confident they can win the “clash with China” without Europe helping?

In Asian people always said nobody is reliable in the world so always prepare yourself. That is what chinese people never trust the government or country .

Cool. We got warned not to talk to Putin, we kept reiterating that point among ourselves. When Scholz fucked up, it was a hilariously bad attempt that sort of damaged our positions but not so much.

The US president calling to “deal” with Putin? Trump might’ve as well offered his and our collective assholes for russian plugging.

People will blame the US and trump, but this is really a fault of the EU and the individual Nations States.

US can do what US does. If EU was not incapable, the phone call would not have such an effect, if any at all.

Heck, if EU was not obtuse, the phone call wouldn’t even happen as US wouldn’t ever hold the lead over European defence.

This is just pathetic show of the effects of the EU.

Europe will continue business as usual as long as it is possible.

America is not a friend or an allie of Europe, this should be clear now.

One of the aims is this, to destroy the eu, giving part of what remains to russia, taking it away from china, and taking the rest

Honestly, we give Fico and Orban shit for less. Europe has to take the strategic initiative to detach from the US and fight Russia without American support. Hopefully, we can form strong trade relations with latin america, Canada, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand. The 4 years will be tough but even if a moderate comes to the white house after Trump, the trust is permanently gone. There will now be a strong portion of americans who oppose liberal values (in the classic sense, not what the US distort it to mean) and seek isolationism and hostility towards their “allies”.

New Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, I swear

Leader of the free world surrenders..well played dugin.. everyone laughed at your plans and said you were a fool.. guess history proved you right.

With the constant threats on Greenland and Europe, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Molotov-Ribbentrop pact between the US and Russia in the near future

I sure hope so, but don’t underestimate the greed of voters and politicians.

At the first sign that the USA wants to go back to the same, they will happily oblige..

Chamberlain and Hitler in Munich vibes. but this time the victims are fighting back.

just waiting for a “peace in our time” moment between those 2 deplorables

Better start arming yourselves and having kids I guess

People are too dramatic thinking that the EU is weak militarily. Even without the US we could perfectly deal with Russia. Europeans need to believe more in themselves and not have this defeating attitude and one of vassalage toward the US. One thing is developing our own industries and spending a bit more in the military, and another is getting into a militaristic rhetoric that only leads to disaster and war. Idk about you, but I’m not fucking fighting in wars caused by capitalism and imperialism.

I hope Europe smells the coffee and gets out of bed and realizes that national defense is not something you can do on autopilot.

It’s also something you don’t want to rely on third parties for. At the moment we are the USA’s little bitch on this front. I hope we change that and become self reliant, as it should be. And in the process we reduce the USA’s geological footprint in our back yard.

Let’s create a military industrial complex in Europe, producing on a large scale our own defense weapons. It’s a high skill, labor market, with IP touching a lot of critical sectors (space, telecoms etc).

We can spend 5% of our budget on defense. It doesn’t have to be on American weapons, though. Let’s spend 5% of our budget developing and producing our own superweapons.

I like how you people complain how weak Europe is, but how is that news?

We let Ukraine dance on our noses during the last 3 years. Germany let them bomb NS2 and then just covered it up which is arguably the biggest scandal in recent times in Germany.

Ukraine itself thinks Europe is weak and that they are running the show, the US once again shows how its done and puts Ukraine into its place.

US relations with Europe will never be the same after Trump* FTFY

Europe needs to unite immediately. Don’t think the US won’t make a move against Europe in the next decade when their democracy is officially over.

Although private donations cannot solve this alone, please can people consider in what way they can support Ukraine personally.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/united24-raises-over-1-billion-in-donations-for-ukraine-5786