Extraordinary figure that’s unsustainable and money that could be spent building houses, hospitals to name but two things for a start.
There’s a lot of money being made out of this. That’s just the accommodation figure by the way.
The legal people are also coining it.
There has to be a better way surely?
KobraKaiJohhny on
The level of appeasing that is going on for Russia and Israel is not going to stem the flow of people seeking international protection.
That’s an unsustainable cost however.
Additional-Double-64 on
This is why this accommodation provision is now treated as an industry so that certain people can feed off taxpayers money instead of it being used to solve housing crisis while our lazy government facilitates it.
Wise_Adhesiveness746 on
It’s a scam to line pockets of businesses close to the government
Profiteering off people’s desperation is everything that’s wrong with Irish business
boardsmember2017 on
Needs to be at least 4-5 times that tbh to cater for the flow. 100k people going to be added every year and we need to provide proper accommodation, not repurposed hotel rooms and tent cities. Proper homes so people can put roots down.
badger-biscuits on
Seems sustainable
OwnBeag2 on
The amount we pay to house IP applicants is a capitalist’s dream.
€60 p/p per night
100 bed hotel, turned into center would have revenue of €2 mil a month.
Guaranteed no complaints because they will be fearing deportation
Murderbot20 on
Nothing wrong with helping people in need but surely that figure is completely bonkers for a nation the size of us. With everything else being equal that figure alone will attract all sorts of unsavoury interest both on the receiving and the providing end. Its nuts.
Pabrinex on
>International Protection Accommodation Services (IPAS) figures show that Nigerians have the highest number in IPAS accommodation at 6,914, followed by Georgia at 3,072, Algeria at 2,733, Somalia at 2,388, Zimbabwe at 2,209, Jordan at 2,157, Afghanistan at 1,715, Pakistan at 1,656, Bangaldesh at 1,373 and South Africa at 1,249.
We can deport every single Nigerian, Georgian, Zimbabwean, Jordanian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi.
And South Africans? What the fuck, South Africa is an industrialised democracy! These people should be required to repay Irish taxpayers for outright fraud.
We are so, so soft. We’re an embarrassment at the European level for this.
Niamhbeat on
Another key figure in that article is that over 90% of all IPAS accommodation is provided commercially. That is nearly €1billion euro of tax payer money going straight to private interests with almost no oversight, procurement or scrutiny. It is very difficult not to come to the conclusion that vested interests are happy to keep this buried when you see the level of attention a bike shed can generate.
smallirishwolfhound on
And yet, the Irish people sit by and let it happen. Look at how Denmark is flourishing because their people simply don’t let the government do shit like this. No “refugee”(economic migrant that ripped up their passport on the way there) crisis there.
D-dog92 on
OP’s post history is wild
Rollorich on
All this money going to individual, and institutional interests, for temporary solutions, and the immigration crisis getting worse day by day leading even further away from finding long term solutions.
L3S1ng3 on
1bn in a year. That’s a 1bn wealth transfer. In just one of the years this has been going on.
There’s two things to be pissed off about here. One, the migration issue itself. Two, the massive wealth transfer of tax payer’s money into private capitalist’s hands.
1bn euro would pay for an awful lot of compulsory purchase orders and building new dedicated IPAS centres.
But then how are their capitalist bedfellows supposed to make an absolute killing like that ? *We can’t have the state just, y’know, *owning* things. Better that the state be milked for obscene rents that would pay for the buildings outright, many times over. And do that every year.* **/S**
… and yet we have to endure all the bleeding hearts who think it’s a fAr RiGhT cOnSpIrAcY tO sAy ThIs MiGrAtIoN sItUaTiOn iS a MoNeY mAkInG rAcKeT
Lopsided-Potatoe on
It’s all fun and games while the country is awash in tech tax avoidance money.
That bubble will indeed pop.
What happens then?
KILLIGUN0224 on
Honestly at this point I’d just hope the MNCs we rely on pull out for one reason or another. Leave a massive hole in our finances and see them continue to pay this growing fund…. Sadly we need a sizeable recession to impact this.
PaxUX on
What’s the Irish for DOGE? Government accounts should be fully accessible by the people of Ireland.
GoogolX90 on
Will be €2Bn next year.
Margrave75 on
Great little country.
SR-vb5piz3r on
Immigration Industrial Complex is what it should be called.
BIG business, all the right people making a lot of money and essentially f all oversight
Zealousideal_Car9368 on
The true cost of this is much higher.
These hotels, B&B’s,
Hostels ect which have decided to move into this scam industry can lay off a
lot of their staff as they can operate these places at a much lower standard of
care then a normal accommodation business could.
This leads to less PAYE/PRSI being generated for the government due to less people working and
paying tax (leading to some being on the dole).
But not only that, you also then lose these hotels ect to the general population who would have booked
a few nights in them and would end up having dinner out close by as well as a
few beers ect. Again, costing the government a lot in VAT receipt’s as well as
more job losses in the businesses that these tourists would have stayed in.
Just look at how much in reality
this is costing the exchequer, and you can easily see then how much of a scam
is really going on because its nothing but negative after negative(both financially
as well of politically) so why has it
gone on like this for the last 5 years? There has to be hidden corruption probably
using crypto to keep it all hidden from us.
I mean they just can’t be this stupid?
Professional_Elk_489 on
This is something that Boris wished he had thought up during covid when giving out a few contracts
jhanley on
This is legalised human trafficking, simple as
BlankBaron on
Look if we didn’t just give it to the lads making a fortune off the Refugee Crisis™️, we would have just left it in a big room for Paschal to roll around in and talk about how he’s saving it for a rainy day.
We never would have seen any of it regardless.
Fair_Tension_5936 on
Children’s hospital looking cheap now , 1 billion means each and every man , women and child is paying around 200 each per year. Or cost 800 for the average family a year …good value I’ll let you decide
Alarmed_Station6185 on
The lads who run these IPAS centres style themselves as successful businessman but all they’ve done is ring up an old buddy in the govt and wrangled a couple of mil a month for an old hotel daddy left them in the will. No innovation, no actual work, just crony capitalism at its very worst
danny_healy_raygun on
That’s like 200 bike sheds we could have built.
Affectionate_Desk521 on
And they can’t fund education for children with special needs – we have no social housing – people dying in hallways in hospitals – kids in care get NOTHING never mind being set up in hotels and the rest when they leave care – but this ? No problem – fucking shameful and disgusting
sureyouknowurself on
Can I just stop paying tax now. No problem if you want to come live here I just don’t want to pay for it anymore.
Caabb on
Truly disgraceful. Poor leadership. Lack of consideration for our own citizens. Undoubted fraud and bribery in the whole process too.
tubbymaguire91 on
Norma needs to fire her sylist
Worst drip of all time
_CountDracula on
This is what happens when you don’t have a proper opposition, instead of calling this capitalist money racket out and making it an election topic our left wingers support it because the applicants aren’t white, the left has basically been destroyed as any type of opposition because they’ve fallen hook line and sinker for the culture war which was created by capitalists in the first place as a conquer and divide tactic
Special-Being7541 on
While all our other services are crumbling down around us. I imagine this figure will be substantially higher next year as more refugees enter the country.
Significant_Stop723 on
So much housing could have been built from that money.
Plane-Top-3913 on
I’m not Irish but living here, and this is the type of projects that Europe – France – does to accommodate people in need:
Owned by the public, generating social cohesion, jobs, etc. Not just transferring money to the private sector. What’s needed is just vision!
Legitimate-Leader-99 on
This cannot continue, we have so many homeless people, families , hidden homeless that aren’t even counted in the figures , this country is at breaking point with every service billions of taxpayers money wasted , when will people decide enough is enough.
bingybong22 on
A billion going to parasites. It makes me so angry that I really can’t think about it.
tldrtldrtldr on
Racket
Brave-Trouble-9171 on
This is insane. There’s too much money being thrown around. Politicians, their friends and family all will get in on this and milk it for all it’s worth. NO consideration for the state of our little island and what the consequences of taking in the volume of economic migrants. When the tap has run dry these people will be living in Spain while the country is irreversible changed forever.
I have no problem helping genuine asylum in small numbers that reflect are small island and population. Protecting small town and villages. But Jesus letting in hundreds of thousands just so a few can profit from it while the country suffers. Paris, Bradford Birmingham Manchester etc are KIPS now. Why let Ireland become like that just so are government can look good in Brussels. We’re turning into little Afghanistan at this stage. Fucking hell where are the grown ups. It’s not racist to love your country and people. We have been brainwashed into believing that to speak up about immigration is wrong and far right. It’s not, that’s what Leo and Simon Harris want us to believe so they can flood the county in and let a small few profit from it. They don’t have to worry about it 400k a year. They are far removed from the small villages where 300 migrant men roam the streets and 2 gardai stationed 45mins away to help when shit hits the fan.
Rant over
TNPF1976 on
What a f**king disgrace. We’re being taken for absolute fools.
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Extraordinary figure that’s unsustainable and money that could be spent building houses, hospitals to name but two things for a start.
There’s a lot of money being made out of this. That’s just the accommodation figure by the way.
The legal people are also coining it.
There has to be a better way surely?
The level of appeasing that is going on for Russia and Israel is not going to stem the flow of people seeking international protection.
That’s an unsustainable cost however.
This is why this accommodation provision is now treated as an industry so that certain people can feed off taxpayers money instead of it being used to solve housing crisis while our lazy government facilitates it.
It’s a scam to line pockets of businesses close to the government
Profiteering off people’s desperation is everything that’s wrong with Irish business
Needs to be at least 4-5 times that tbh to cater for the flow. 100k people going to be added every year and we need to provide proper accommodation, not repurposed hotel rooms and tent cities. Proper homes so people can put roots down.
Seems sustainable
The amount we pay to house IP applicants is a capitalist’s dream.
€60 p/p per night
100 bed hotel, turned into center would have revenue of €2 mil a month.
Guaranteed no complaints because they will be fearing deportation
Nothing wrong with helping people in need but surely that figure is completely bonkers for a nation the size of us. With everything else being equal that figure alone will attract all sorts of unsavoury interest both on the receiving and the providing end. Its nuts.
>International Protection Accommodation Services (IPAS) figures show that Nigerians have the highest number in IPAS accommodation at 6,914, followed by Georgia at 3,072, Algeria at 2,733, Somalia at 2,388, Zimbabwe at 2,209, Jordan at 2,157, Afghanistan at 1,715, Pakistan at 1,656, Bangaldesh at 1,373 and South Africa at 1,249.
We can deport every single Nigerian, Georgian, Zimbabwean, Jordanian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi.
And South Africans? What the fuck, South Africa is an industrialised democracy! These people should be required to repay Irish taxpayers for outright fraud.
We are so, so soft. We’re an embarrassment at the European level for this.
Another key figure in that article is that over 90% of all IPAS accommodation is provided commercially. That is nearly €1billion euro of tax payer money going straight to private interests with almost no oversight, procurement or scrutiny. It is very difficult not to come to the conclusion that vested interests are happy to keep this buried when you see the level of attention a bike shed can generate.
And yet, the Irish people sit by and let it happen. Look at how Denmark is flourishing because their people simply don’t let the government do shit like this. No “refugee”(economic migrant that ripped up their passport on the way there) crisis there.
OP’s post history is wild
All this money going to individual, and institutional interests, for temporary solutions, and the immigration crisis getting worse day by day leading even further away from finding long term solutions.
1bn in a year. That’s a 1bn wealth transfer. In just one of the years this has been going on.
There’s two things to be pissed off about here. One, the migration issue itself. Two, the massive wealth transfer of tax payer’s money into private capitalist’s hands.
1bn euro would pay for an awful lot of compulsory purchase orders and building new dedicated IPAS centres.
But then how are their capitalist bedfellows supposed to make an absolute killing like that ? *We can’t have the state just, y’know, *owning* things. Better that the state be milked for obscene rents that would pay for the buildings outright, many times over. And do that every year.* **/S**
… and yet we have to endure all the bleeding hearts who think it’s a fAr RiGhT cOnSpIrAcY tO sAy ThIs MiGrAtIoN sItUaTiOn iS a MoNeY mAkInG rAcKeT
It’s all fun and games while the country is awash in tech tax avoidance money.
That bubble will indeed pop.
What happens then?
Honestly at this point I’d just hope the MNCs we rely on pull out for one reason or another. Leave a massive hole in our finances and see them continue to pay this growing fund…. Sadly we need a sizeable recession to impact this.
What’s the Irish for DOGE? Government accounts should be fully accessible by the people of Ireland.
Will be €2Bn next year.
Great little country.
Immigration Industrial Complex is what it should be called.
BIG business, all the right people making a lot of money and essentially f all oversight
The true cost of this is much higher.
These hotels, B&B’s,
Hostels ect which have decided to move into this scam industry can lay off a
lot of their staff as they can operate these places at a much lower standard of
care then a normal accommodation business could.
This leads to less PAYE/PRSI being generated for the government due to less people working and
paying tax (leading to some being on the dole).
But not only that, you also then lose these hotels ect to the general population who would have booked
a few nights in them and would end up having dinner out close by as well as a
few beers ect. Again, costing the government a lot in VAT receipt’s as well as
more job losses in the businesses that these tourists would have stayed in.
Just look at how much in reality
this is costing the exchequer, and you can easily see then how much of a scam
is really going on because its nothing but negative after negative(both financially
as well of politically) so why has it
gone on like this for the last 5 years? There has to be hidden corruption probably
using crypto to keep it all hidden from us.
I mean they just can’t be this stupid?
This is something that Boris wished he had thought up during covid when giving out a few contracts
This is legalised human trafficking, simple as
Look if we didn’t just give it to the lads making a fortune off the Refugee Crisis™️, we would have just left it in a big room for Paschal to roll around in and talk about how he’s saving it for a rainy day.
We never would have seen any of it regardless.
Children’s hospital looking cheap now , 1 billion means each and every man , women and child is paying around 200 each per year. Or cost 800 for the average family a year …good value I’ll let you decide
The lads who run these IPAS centres style themselves as successful businessman but all they’ve done is ring up an old buddy in the govt and wrangled a couple of mil a month for an old hotel daddy left them in the will. No innovation, no actual work, just crony capitalism at its very worst
That’s like 200 bike sheds we could have built.
And they can’t fund education for children with special needs – we have no social housing – people dying in hallways in hospitals – kids in care get NOTHING never mind being set up in hotels and the rest when they leave care – but this ? No problem – fucking shameful and disgusting
Can I just stop paying tax now. No problem if you want to come live here I just don’t want to pay for it anymore.
Truly disgraceful. Poor leadership. Lack of consideration for our own citizens. Undoubted fraud and bribery in the whole process too.
Norma needs to fire her sylist
Worst drip of all time
This is what happens when you don’t have a proper opposition, instead of calling this capitalist money racket out and making it an election topic our left wingers support it because the applicants aren’t white, the left has basically been destroyed as any type of opposition because they’ve fallen hook line and sinker for the culture war which was created by capitalists in the first place as a conquer and divide tactic
While all our other services are crumbling down around us. I imagine this figure will be substantially higher next year as more refugees enter the country.
So much housing could have been built from that money.
I’m not Irish but living here, and this is the type of projects that Europe – France – does to accommodate people in need:
https://youtu.be/MecA9cFHXaQ?feature=shared
Owned by the public, generating social cohesion, jobs, etc. Not just transferring money to the private sector. What’s needed is just vision!
This cannot continue, we have so many homeless people, families , hidden homeless that aren’t even counted in the figures , this country is at breaking point with every service billions of taxpayers money wasted , when will people decide enough is enough.
A billion going to parasites. It makes me so angry that I really can’t think about it.
Racket
This is insane. There’s too much money being thrown around. Politicians, their friends and family all will get in on this and milk it for all it’s worth. NO consideration for the state of our little island and what the consequences of taking in the volume of economic migrants. When the tap has run dry these people will be living in Spain while the country is irreversible changed forever.
I have no problem helping genuine asylum in small numbers that reflect are small island and population. Protecting small town and villages. But Jesus letting in hundreds of thousands just so a few can profit from it while the country suffers. Paris, Bradford Birmingham Manchester etc are KIPS now. Why let Ireland become like that just so are government can look good in Brussels. We’re turning into little Afghanistan at this stage. Fucking hell where are the grown ups. It’s not racist to love your country and people. We have been brainwashed into believing that to speak up about immigration is wrong and far right. It’s not, that’s what Leo and Simon Harris want us to believe so they can flood the county in and let a small few profit from it. They don’t have to worry about it 400k a year. They are far removed from the small villages where 300 migrant men roam the streets and 2 gardai stationed 45mins away to help when shit hits the fan.
Rant over
What a f**king disgrace. We’re being taken for absolute fools.