Nessuna decisione sull’Ucraina senza Ucraina, insiste la zanna della Polonia, poiché la Germania afferma che l’Europa e gli Stati Uniti non devono essere divisi – Europa vivono | Ucraina | Il Guardian

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    1. Acrobatic-Paint7185 on

      Literally nothing came out of this meeting. The usual “highly concerned” and “affirmative action” speeches but nothing else. Europe has given up. This is the final nail in the coffin of Europe as a global power.

    2. NutsyFlamingo on

      They’ll all be skiing in 2 weeks, as already in diary.

    3. Affectionate_Cat293 on

      So much for an “emergency summit”. They’ll keep dragging their feet until Marine Le Pen wins the presidency in 2027. Once she comes into power, she won’t need to pretend to be a moderate anymore with Trump accumulating absolute power in the US.

    4. Phoros92 on

      Another useless “urgent” meeting. Goddammit I hate all these useless pussy politicians we have..

    5. sbaldrick33 on

      So the outcome of the meeting to affirm Europe’s position as an independent power was for Germany to stick in the mud, and then for Germany and Britain to decide to beg America to come back.

      This fucking shitshow.

    6. lokicramer on

      Trump told Zelensky they would send peace keeper troops for 50% of Ukraines resource rights.

      They obviously refused.

      But now the second part happens, Trump will make another offer, which while still outrageous, will seem much more reasonable when compared to the first.

      Its literally in his book.

      The US has no problem deploying troops worldwide if it is for huge profits.

      At least if we look at history.

    7. WilliamWeaverfish on

      The phrase “rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic” comes to mind

    8. IDontGoHardIGoHome on

      Please remember that the same countries allowed Hitler to take Czechoslovakia, just in case he would just stop there.

    9. Zealousideal-Bid8382 on

      Bla bla bla… Bla bla bla.Im tired of this.Show some balls god dam it…

    10. PxddyWxn on

      And they wonder why they’re only “consulted” concerning Ukraine.

    11. ValestyK on

      Nothing as expected, the future of europe is in the hands of trump and putin.

    12. The_RedfuckingHood on

      Europe and US are already split. How many times before we realize that the world is not what it was?

      You love democracy so much? You want to continue living in it? Our old ways of doing things is done!

      Starting right now, we have to live in the *real* world. Because if we’re not together and don’t fight, we die.

      Everytime we give those *animals* an olive branch, they think it’s a weakness and invade their neighbors. This is *done*. When they collapse again, we don’t help them.

      They *never* had proper democracy. They don’t wanna change, will never change, they’re always the victims, they want their strong men. Commit genocide.We all saw what they were capable of, what they *are* capable of.

      Unfortunately for Europe, we are in the zone of the blast.

    13. maumiaumaumiau on

      The amount of people here whom have no clue how tings work and balieve that everything gets published, like they think they know their social network friends because they put a selfie every our, is just insane.

      Blah blah blah… nothing was decided… blah blah blah nothing burger…. blah blah blah concerned letter… wtf?

      Go out, touch some grass. Go home and read a book.

    14. When are these stupid wankers in Brussels going to grasp that the US HAS split from us. Trump has been rhetorically fellating Putin while feeding Ukraine into a wood chipper for weeks!

    15. cirillogiuseppe1 on

      No Eu and Usa must split , Usa showed multiple times how their willing to fuck over the Eu and this even before Trump , stop coping , immigrants won’t destroy our country superpower like usa will

    16. eppic123 on

      Classic British press, always working hard to divide European even further. Scholz was talking about NATO.

    17. eurodawg on

      >Germany says Europe and US must not be split

      Was Scholz dropped on his head as a baby?

      US is hinting at attacking Denmark (Greenland), they are ordering US troops withdrawal from Baltics (Molotov Ribbentrop 2.0)

      What is wrong with German politicians!? Must not be split? We **ARE** split.

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