*Translation (paywall removed, automated translation and some manual edits for mistakes)*
In 1994 and 1995 he was Secretary-General of NATO for North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The alliance of 32 countries from Europe and North America works together on the political and military level, with peace and security in these countries as the main goal.
What is currently happening on the world stage keeps him busy “I try to stay calm, but that’s hard because this chaos is unseen and complete. Don’t ask me a good word about the US at the moment,” Claes said. “For years, perhaps since 1917 when they declared war on Germany, the Americans have been in solidarity with Europe. This was certainly the case in World War II. Then they not only helped us free us from the Nazis, but they were also a great support in rebuilding. Until so long ago, they still thought it made sense to support Ukraine, a country that was invaded and occupied by the Russians in a cowardly way.”
“But after those many years of perfect solidarity across the ocean, everything has changed since Trump’s presidency. This is high treason. It is the low point of the lows of a country that, last week, at the Munich Summit, thought that it could teach Europe a lesson in fundamental values. What a moronic speech, my apologies for these words, from Vice President J.D. Vance that was?”
Former foreign minister Karel De Gucht did not call the United States an ally on Monday in an interview with the *Nieuwsblad*. In one breath, he added that NATO, of which Claes was the top man thirty years ago, does not suggest anything at all. His conclusion? That NATO better to break up. Claes himself, however, does not think that the end of NATO is near by the “high treason of the Americans” towards Europe. “I am not pessimistic in that respect. It is almost impossible for Trump to leave NATO, for which he is still preventively passed a law. The American president also knows that an exit would be very detrimental to his country. Our continent borders Russia, a country he describes as a danger and a challenge. Trump is well aware that you better have allies around when the aggression breaks out.”
Claes also does not think that Europe will tear itself off the US. “Strictly militarily you cannot replace this NATO alliance with a European army. For that, there is far too little unanimity in Europe.” Claes says that he still knows how he spoke more willfully with French President Mitterrand about a European defense to be able to create more distance from the US militarily. He nodded in agreement. But Claes did get an obvious *nun, jamais* when he explained that Mitterand had to hand over his nuclear power. “For the creation of a European army, you must have unanimity among the countries. It’s impossible! It’s impossible! Stop with that unanimity rule immediately.
According to Claes, Europe must, in the absence of unanimity, establish its own army, but maintain its connection with the US through NATO. He believes that every country, including Belgium, should make its contribution to the alliance. “If you are a member of a club, you pay membership fees. That makes sense.”
The former NATO boss is at the same time convinced that it is urgent to develop more military forces in the short term and to make a serious effort to arm us. “Although I plead in one breath to carry plenty of disarmament dialogues in the world. – That’s urgent. The “red phone” *(the line between Moscow and Washington to prevent a nuclear war)* hardly works. We are going to start something that can no longer be stopped.”Claes does not think that Russia is immediately a great danger to Europe. “Of course, Putin has hostile intentions toward us, but his war chest is as good as exhausted.”
RoadandHardtail on
I mean, it’s not a treason. It’s just a betrayal.
Casual-Speedrunner-7 on
We’re gradually moving from *the end of history* to *why liberalism failed*.
Surenas1 on
The US finally realizes that a local conflict on the periphery of Europe’s border doesn’t serve its national interests. European countries have neglected their own security and defense capabilities, despite the Yanks warning them for decades to increase their military spending, and are now caught with their pants down as the incompetent vassal states they always were.
TungstenPaladin on
Treason is hostile action taken against one owns state. The US is sovereign and doesn’t answer to another country.
wyspur on
General Willy lol
Spiritual_Drink_9265 on
Who are stupid enough to continue to trust USA partnership ? This is the biggest mistake of USA history. The end of a capitalist empire.
It’s impossible to win when you oppress partners like that 😂… This is good for China and Russia…. Brics is the new paradigm 👍
MDT-49 on
I guess I’m still more optimistic than I thought.
My first thought was that this article was about American soldiers who wouldn’t follow orders if it ever came to invading former allies.
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*Translation (paywall removed, automated translation and some manual edits for mistakes)*
In 1994 and 1995 he was Secretary-General of NATO for North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The alliance of 32 countries from Europe and North America works together on the political and military level, with peace and security in these countries as the main goal.
What is currently happening on the world stage keeps him busy “I try to stay calm, but that’s hard because this chaos is unseen and complete. Don’t ask me a good word about the US at the moment,” Claes said. “For years, perhaps since 1917 when they declared war on Germany, the Americans have been in solidarity with Europe. This was certainly the case in World War II. Then they not only helped us free us from the Nazis, but they were also a great support in rebuilding. Until so long ago, they still thought it made sense to support Ukraine, a country that was invaded and occupied by the Russians in a cowardly way.”
“But after those many years of perfect solidarity across the ocean, everything has changed since Trump’s presidency. This is high treason. It is the low point of the lows of a country that, last week, at the Munich Summit, thought that it could teach Europe a lesson in fundamental values. What a moronic speech, my apologies for these words, from Vice President J.D. Vance that was?”
Former foreign minister Karel De Gucht did not call the United States an ally on Monday in an interview with the *Nieuwsblad*. In one breath, he added that NATO, of which Claes was the top man thirty years ago, does not suggest anything at all. His conclusion? That NATO better to break up. Claes himself, however, does not think that the end of NATO is near by the “high treason of the Americans” towards Europe. “I am not pessimistic in that respect. It is almost impossible for Trump to leave NATO, for which he is still preventively passed a law. The American president also knows that an exit would be very detrimental to his country. Our continent borders Russia, a country he describes as a danger and a challenge. Trump is well aware that you better have allies around when the aggression breaks out.”
Claes also does not think that Europe will tear itself off the US. “Strictly militarily you cannot replace this NATO alliance with a European army. For that, there is far too little unanimity in Europe.” Claes says that he still knows how he spoke more willfully with French President Mitterrand about a European defense to be able to create more distance from the US militarily. He nodded in agreement. But Claes did get an obvious *nun, jamais* when he explained that Mitterand had to hand over his nuclear power. “For the creation of a European army, you must have unanimity among the countries. It’s impossible! It’s impossible! Stop with that unanimity rule immediately.
According to Claes, Europe must, in the absence of unanimity, establish its own army, but maintain its connection with the US through NATO. He believes that every country, including Belgium, should make its contribution to the alliance. “If you are a member of a club, you pay membership fees. That makes sense.”
The former NATO boss is at the same time convinced that it is urgent to develop more military forces in the short term and to make a serious effort to arm us. “Although I plead in one breath to carry plenty of disarmament dialogues in the world. – That’s urgent. The “red phone” *(the line between Moscow and Washington to prevent a nuclear war)* hardly works. We are going to start something that can no longer be stopped.”Claes does not think that Russia is immediately a great danger to Europe. “Of course, Putin has hostile intentions toward us, but his war chest is as good as exhausted.”
I mean, it’s not a treason. It’s just a betrayal.
We’re gradually moving from *the end of history* to *why liberalism failed*.
The US finally realizes that a local conflict on the periphery of Europe’s border doesn’t serve its national interests. European countries have neglected their own security and defense capabilities, despite the Yanks warning them for decades to increase their military spending, and are now caught with their pants down as the incompetent vassal states they always were.
Treason is hostile action taken against one owns state. The US is sovereign and doesn’t answer to another country.
General Willy lol
Who are stupid enough to continue to trust USA partnership ? This is the biggest mistake of USA history. The end of a capitalist empire.
It’s impossible to win when you oppress partners like that 😂… This is good for China and Russia…. Brics is the new paradigm 👍
I guess I’m still more optimistic than I thought.
My first thought was that this article was about American soldiers who wouldn’t follow orders if it ever came to invading former allies.