That’s how it’s been for awhile. We are incredibly reliant on foreign doctors to staff our hospitals, especially the less desirable services that Irish trained doctors usually know to avoid. The IMO does a survey yearly I believe, the last one showed NCHDs were 56% foreign trained iirc.
TownInitial8567 on
So ironic because the majority of the doctors i have delt with in Malaysia have been trained in Ireland
Cute-Explorer1495 on
They need to make graduate medicine cheaper – as people are older doing it they are more likely to stay
AnnyWeatherwaxxx on
In Limerick hospital atm with my Dad (82). So grateful to all the lovely staff (carers, nurses and doctors) wherever they are from. 🙏🏼
OldCorpse on
I never understood why there are so few college places for doctors (and dentists) in Ireland
susanboylesvajazzle on
I don’t inherently see a problem with this so long as the level of training is high and those who have trained in Ireland can work in Ireland if they choose to.
There is a question over the latter point, where we have a situation where we’re paying for the training of Doctors in Ireland who don’t want to work in Ireland after they graduate. I know that’s the case with a number of friends who simply didn’t want to work in Irish hospitals because they could get a much better job elsewhere.
Switzerland has made a conscious decision to recruit externally rather than train internally because it’s cheaper for them to do so.
Wild_Web3695 on
Honestly I don’t care. Just make me non sick
Special-Being7541 on
They need to make working conditions better to keep our native trained medical professionals so we don’t keep losing them to the UK and Australia. If we improve our conditions it also benefits our foreign medical workers so it’s a win win! Ireland is not attractive enough for our own people and this is a core issue to our healthcare system. We will always be an attractive place for someone coming from a poorer country, it doesn’t mean they don’t get taking advantage of by our poor working conditions in hospitals
TheCunningFool on
Military aged doctors
Human_Pangolin94 on
Yeah, sounds about right. That probably counts those trained in the UK as foreign, rightly, but that might just mean Queen’s in Belfast too.
martywhelan699 on
Is there any way to find out how many doctors trained here and then left the country?
TitsMaggie69 on
Great for us. Sucks for developing countries.
Regular_Cap_4040 on
Irish trained doctors have to move to another corner of the country every summer for a decade during their training. It should come as no surprise that they are leaving. Paradoxically your life is more settled if you fuck off.
ProfessionalPeanut83 on
I make up a percentage of that, even as an Irish native, but who had to leave to study medicine abroad as the system here is designed exclusively for those from very wealthy backgrounds (looking at you GEM, and with the banks not helping in the slightest).
Coming back this year and have zero intention of ever leaving again even if it’s a disaster training and lifestyle wise. Nowhere like home as they say.
LoveMascMen on
I have 6 doctors in my family. All Irish and none of them work in Ireland. One did try to get a job here for 1 year but is now living back in Australia when they gave up trying to find work here and said goodbye to their friends and family again for work. Like many young Irish unwillingly are forced to do.
Prestigious-Side-286 on
We pit Medicine on a pedastal. Becoming a doctor is so challenging in this country it’s out of 99% of people’s reach.
Jonesy27 on
Bloody foreigners!! Coming over here… healing the sick, saving lives, keeping the health service running—who do they think they are?!
TheCrymaxTheatre on
Would you like to have your career in the hands of the extremely well paid HSE execs?
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Foreigners. Great bunch of lads.
That’s how it’s been for awhile. We are incredibly reliant on foreign doctors to staff our hospitals, especially the less desirable services that Irish trained doctors usually know to avoid. The IMO does a survey yearly I believe, the last one showed NCHDs were 56% foreign trained iirc.
So ironic because the majority of the doctors i have delt with in Malaysia have been trained in Ireland
They need to make graduate medicine cheaper – as people are older doing it they are more likely to stay
In Limerick hospital atm with my Dad (82). So grateful to all the lovely staff (carers, nurses and doctors) wherever they are from. 🙏🏼
I never understood why there are so few college places for doctors (and dentists) in Ireland
I don’t inherently see a problem with this so long as the level of training is high and those who have trained in Ireland can work in Ireland if they choose to.
There is a question over the latter point, where we have a situation where we’re paying for the training of Doctors in Ireland who don’t want to work in Ireland after they graduate. I know that’s the case with a number of friends who simply didn’t want to work in Irish hospitals because they could get a much better job elsewhere.
Switzerland has made a conscious decision to recruit externally rather than train internally because it’s cheaper for them to do so.
Honestly I don’t care. Just make me non sick
They need to make working conditions better to keep our native trained medical professionals so we don’t keep losing them to the UK and Australia. If we improve our conditions it also benefits our foreign medical workers so it’s a win win! Ireland is not attractive enough for our own people and this is a core issue to our healthcare system. We will always be an attractive place for someone coming from a poorer country, it doesn’t mean they don’t get taking advantage of by our poor working conditions in hospitals
Military aged doctors
Yeah, sounds about right. That probably counts those trained in the UK as foreign, rightly, but that might just mean Queen’s in Belfast too.
Is there any way to find out how many doctors trained here and then left the country?
Great for us. Sucks for developing countries.
Irish trained doctors have to move to another corner of the country every summer for a decade during their training. It should come as no surprise that they are leaving. Paradoxically your life is more settled if you fuck off.
I make up a percentage of that, even as an Irish native, but who had to leave to study medicine abroad as the system here is designed exclusively for those from very wealthy backgrounds (looking at you GEM, and with the banks not helping in the slightest).
Coming back this year and have zero intention of ever leaving again even if it’s a disaster training and lifestyle wise. Nowhere like home as they say.
I have 6 doctors in my family. All Irish and none of them work in Ireland. One did try to get a job here for 1 year but is now living back in Australia when they gave up trying to find work here and said goodbye to their friends and family again for work. Like many young Irish unwillingly are forced to do.
We pit Medicine on a pedastal. Becoming a doctor is so challenging in this country it’s out of 99% of people’s reach.
Bloody foreigners!! Coming over here… healing the sick, saving lives, keeping the health service running—who do they think they are?!
Would you like to have your career in the hands of the extremely well paid HSE execs?