Xi Jinping:”you re teaming with putin?lets make this even”
RoadandHardtail on
I think that’s a smart move. Amongst great powers, only EU and China (and Japan) still benefits from rule based international order, and they need to think long and hard as to how to limit the excess of Trump-Putin bromance.
No-History-Evee-Made on
China (and Japan if they count?) is the only major power that doesn’t want the EU to break up. They are our only possible partner.
Machiavelcro_ on
What a dark timeline…
de_boeuf_etoile on
China should not be trusted.
But it is a better option to try to get a working relation with China that can help us avoid WW3 and total climate collapse, rather than end up being on different sides of a world war.
-Teapot- on
Given the situation with China, Ruzzia and the USA after 01/25, China is the sane and stable choice.
Everyone knows China has plans for the next 100+ years in the drawer.
Everyone knows China want’s Taiwan back.
Everyone knows China is investing heavily into foreign infrastructure with the goal of gaining soft power.
Everyone knows China is building up it’s military to counter the USA’s sea power.
Europe may not agree with how China is handling many things, but China is, all in all, predictable and stable in what they want to achieve. And foremost, China is on a way into the future – socially, environmentally, technical.
The USA on the other hand is regressing fast, aside from a technical point.
CrayonEatingBabyApe on
China is fueling Russia’s war machine. Even if they weren’t Western Europe kneeling before a communist state for protection against the big bad USA would be the strangest timeline in all of this.
dardan06 on
Imagine having to turn to China because your biggest ally and friend turns crazy…
2024-2025 on
So the new world order will be US/Russia vs EU/China. Would have said you’re crazy if you said this 1 year ago
LatelyPode on
US: Isolates itself and pushes countries to not be reliant on it
Countries: Turns around and looks at China
US: “Wait- that’s illegal”
digitalguerrilla on
We must leverage China to get Europe into the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine
heatrealist on
It makes sense. China already polices the streets of one EU country. I’m sure they would oblige the rest with the same security service.
Visible_Bat2176 on
China is China. It has a plan, it is following it meticulously, it does not say it is what it is not and for it to work it needs to fulfill the social contract for its people.I do get the Trump in Russia moment envisioned as Nixon in China in the GOP minds, but… Still… Russia is an economic pigmey these days…
Primary-Effect-3691 on
We don’t have to like China to trade with them.
Yes, they are a threat to democracies in their region. Who isn’t these days?
Critical-Marzipan-77 on
Sometimes Jesus has to seat in the same table with Judas
yezu on
As sad as this is, there’s truth to that. Not because China is good and can be a friend. There are no friends in this world. But because they are a major power that can counter US and Russia to some extent. Everyone plays their game, EU will need to as well and that means partnering up with China if it is convenient.
-xMatthew1 on
Never ever would I have thought as China as the sane country.
PineBNorth85 on
Incredibly sad when that’s the case.
bjornbamse on
Europe should not rely on anyone or trust anyone. Start building those nukes already.
RAdu2005FTW on
Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Bugatsas11 on
Why would we not strengthen our ties with China? We have done so for decades and we gained a lot by it.
The whole china vs West narrative started by USA being fearful of China’s economic growth.
Why would Europe keep being USA’s tail in this new multipolar world. Let’s find our own role
PoiHolloi2020 on
They say this and then make their ‘wolf warrior’ bullshit diplomat Lu Shaye to be their ambassador to the EU, after he made comments like “former Soviet countries have no effective status in international law”.
Evening_Hospital on
This is not a red vs blue team kind of decision. The USA has willfully given up its position as world leader and maintainer of peace, so now we have to strategically act for our own benefit in a multi polar world
The_Rat_Attack on
At this rate, China might not even have to invade Taiwan. Taiwan might just ask to join China with the clusterfuck that is everyone else
FoundationNegative56 on
Do nothing win
Carl-99999 on
Europe. Don’t do it. Be independent. Stop going around daddy-shopping.
kakafob on
In another post in here I have said that China might say “Hello” to Europe in all of this turmoil and I have been targeted and blamed for…
JKH_357 on
The sino-european alliance vs the Moscow-Washington axis was not on my bingo card for 2025
RusTheCrow on
I wonder what percentage of comments in here are from actual humans.
gorksmurphy on
China has mercenaries/volunteers fighting for Russia. It is also Russias economic lifeline. How is this an option?
Damunzta on
Better the devil you know, it seems.
Sauerkrautkid7 on
The Art of the Deal
grazfest96 on
Russia would have lost the war within 1 year if it wasn’t for China. China is playing both sides.
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Xi Jinping:”you re teaming with putin?lets make this even”
I think that’s a smart move. Amongst great powers, only EU and China (and Japan) still benefits from rule based international order, and they need to think long and hard as to how to limit the excess of Trump-Putin bromance.
China (and Japan if they count?) is the only major power that doesn’t want the EU to break up. They are our only possible partner.
What a dark timeline…
China should not be trusted.
But it is a better option to try to get a working relation with China that can help us avoid WW3 and total climate collapse, rather than end up being on different sides of a world war.
Given the situation with China, Ruzzia and the USA after 01/25, China is the sane and stable choice.
Everyone knows China has plans for the next 100+ years in the drawer.
Everyone knows China want’s Taiwan back.
Everyone knows China is investing heavily into foreign infrastructure with the goal of gaining soft power.
Everyone knows China is building up it’s military to counter the USA’s sea power.
Europe may not agree with how China is handling many things, but China is, all in all, predictable and stable in what they want to achieve. And foremost, China is on a way into the future – socially, environmentally, technical.
The USA on the other hand is regressing fast, aside from a technical point.
China is fueling Russia’s war machine. Even if they weren’t Western Europe kneeling before a communist state for protection against the big bad USA would be the strangest timeline in all of this.
Imagine having to turn to China because your biggest ally and friend turns crazy…
So the new world order will be US/Russia vs EU/China. Would have said you’re crazy if you said this 1 year ago
US: Isolates itself and pushes countries to not be reliant on it
Countries: Turns around and looks at China
US: “Wait- that’s illegal”
We must leverage China to get Europe into the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine
It makes sense. China already polices the streets of one EU country. I’m sure they would oblige the rest with the same security service.
China is China. It has a plan, it is following it meticulously, it does not say it is what it is not and for it to work it needs to fulfill the social contract for its people.I do get the Trump in Russia moment envisioned as Nixon in China in the GOP minds, but… Still… Russia is an economic pigmey these days…
We don’t have to like China to trade with them.
Yes, they are a threat to democracies in their region. Who isn’t these days?
Sometimes Jesus has to seat in the same table with Judas
As sad as this is, there’s truth to that. Not because China is good and can be a friend. There are no friends in this world. But because they are a major power that can counter US and Russia to some extent. Everyone plays their game, EU will need to as well and that means partnering up with China if it is convenient.
Never ever would I have thought as China as the sane country.
Incredibly sad when that’s the case.
Europe should not rely on anyone or trust anyone. Start building those nukes already.
Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Why would we not strengthen our ties with China? We have done so for decades and we gained a lot by it.
The whole china vs West narrative started by USA being fearful of China’s economic growth.
Why would Europe keep being USA’s tail in this new multipolar world. Let’s find our own role
They say this and then make their ‘wolf warrior’ bullshit diplomat Lu Shaye to be their ambassador to the EU, after he made comments like “former Soviet countries have no effective status in international law”.
This is not a red vs blue team kind of decision. The USA has willfully given up its position as world leader and maintainer of peace, so now we have to strategically act for our own benefit in a multi polar world
At this rate, China might not even have to invade Taiwan. Taiwan might just ask to join China with the clusterfuck that is everyone else
Do nothing win
Europe. Don’t do it. Be independent. Stop going around daddy-shopping.
In another post in here I have said that China might say “Hello” to Europe in all of this turmoil and I have been targeted and blamed for…
The sino-european alliance vs the Moscow-Washington axis was not on my bingo card for 2025
I wonder what percentage of comments in here are from actual humans.
China has mercenaries/volunteers fighting for Russia. It is also Russias economic lifeline. How is this an option?
Better the devil you know, it seems.
The Art of the Deal
Russia would have lost the war within 1 year if it wasn’t for China. China is playing both sides.