“Le relazioni transatlantiche sono finite” come la squadra di Trump con Putin, afferma il miglior deputato tedesco
https://www.politico.eu/article/transatlantic-relations-over-donald-trump-sides-vladimir-putin-top-german-mp-michael-roth/
di EUstrongerthanUS
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Someone gets it
Friedrich Merz and others don’t talk about Zeitenwende anymore but “Epochenbruch”, an epochal shift.
Took you long enough to realize this, didn’t it? There were plenty of warning signs during and after Trumps first term. Europe didn’t listen or act. Europe needs to get it together, otherwise we will be crushed between the USA and Russia.
And the US gets absolutely nothing out of this new ‘relationship’ with Russia
Just read news here in Finland, that multiple sources say there is 3 weeks time for Europe to convince Ukraine to completely surrender to Russia or USA will draw all of its forces from Europe. So the USA is blackmailing Europe to convince Ukraine to surrender.
This message was to be given when Vance was in Europe, but they went for the “support rightwing” speech instead.
This tells me that USA is pretty much under Russian control.
edit: [Mika Aaltola: Euroopalla kolme viikkoa aikaa suostua rauhanehtoihin | HS.fi](https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000011047551.html) link to the news in Finnish. Its the biggest newspaper in Finland and Mika Aaltola who has the “sources” was the head of Finnish foreign affairs institute, presidential candidate and now an europolitician.
It’s always benefited America more anyway
I don’t think many people realise how much of a big deal it is for a German politician, a “transatlanticist” even like most of the people in foreign relations are, to publicly say what Herr Roth is saying.
You have to understand how important the “Westbindung” (integration with the West) has been in post-WW2 Germany, one of the main pillars of German foreign relations, in addition to European integration, of course.
This is huge.
As I’ve said many times in the last few days, this is the beginning of a new era. But after realisation we now need action – Europe needs *genuine* strategic autonomy and pronto.
Support your domestic market r/BuyFromEU
I’m sorry guys, this is all because I wished I lived in more exciting times when I was 16.
well then, DO SOMETHING.
I can only vote and maybe try to get into politics in the future, you are in power NOW.
Trump and his administration have completely ruined relationships with some of our closest allies and it’s only been one month since he’s been inaugurated.
Europe will never support Trump’s pro-russia war settlement. Which means no more forward operating bases for you USA! Nicely done , ruining your relationship with all of its key allies and reducing it’s military presence to zero. Good job.
There is still Canada on the other side of the Atlantic, they always forgot about Canada. Transatlantic relations are not that over.
The comedy sketch that ends us.
Does it mean there was announced build up of 500k-2mil new EU army? Wartime like economy with resetting current budgets to address issues (from military to innovation to deregulation)? No? Then those are empty words
>Top German MP
Never heard of that man lol
Just realised , trump rhymes with Cnut 😂😂😂
Putin is just laughing at how easy it was to control American.
If Europe gives into this new Trump threat and hands Ukraine over to Russia it will be the biggest mistake of the 21st century.
Appeasing a bully never works. It strengthens the bully because
they then view you as weak.
Putin is NOT going to stop at Ukraine.
And he is betting that Europeans have become too weak to stand up to him.
Empty every american military base on european soil.
New fascist USA will try to break up EU, to easily controled smaller fascist governments and big chunk of Europe under “Russian sphere of influence”,which means local Putin dictators or invasion.Now that we know it, its time to organise and fight back. Keep in mind that BOTH dictatorships,Putin and USA,see 450 million people living in democracy as a threat
Let’s hope Europe steps and builds the capability to defend themselves. So far they still need the Americans when things get tough.
He’s right, and they know they can’t say any different because it’s coming directly from the people of Europe. America can get fucked and they should remain in a having got fucked position until they prove they can be trusted again, which may be never.
One has to wonder at what point the central military & intelligence establishment will seek to stop Trump from destroying NATO? Surely the federal government has the means to counter-balance what is a complete 180 degree turn on the last 80 years of defence & state dept policy? The constitution must allow for the removal of a President perusing policies that are detrimental to its closest allies?
He is just spewing facts. I don’t get why All other european Leaders tries to nurse a failed alliance.. Speak truth, and cancel All orders from the usa. Now!
YANKEE GO HOME, can those living nearby US bases make some signs and let them (and our politicians) know how ‘we the people’ think about Trump…?
Facts
Not necessarily. 🇨🇦We🇨🇦 have lots of resources you want and would love to open stronger trade relations.
Well, there’s still Canada! 🇨🇦🇪🇺
They definitely are over and we all need to accept it. As for US blackmail of Europe and Ukraine I can only say the following – No Retreat, No Surrender, Not One Step Back. The war ends when Ukraine and Europe decide it, and it will be decided with Russian defeat in the field and liberation of Ukraine’s occupied territory. American demands, opinions, threats, whatever else simply don’t matter anymore. I don’t care what traitors and oligarchs think should or should not be done.