“L’Europa ha fatto più degli Stati Uniti” – Commissario per la difesa dell’UE respinge le accuse di Trump

    https://kyivindependent.com/we-are-now-producing-more-than-americans-eu-defense-commissioner-on-europes-arms-rebirth/

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    1. schmeckfest on

      We did. But Trump supporters don’t watch actual news, don’t read newspapers, and certainly don’t listen to what an EU commissioner has to say. They believe everything Trump says, no matter what. And that’s because they are cultists living in the MAGA cult. And their orange leader is never wrong, even when he contradicts himself five times in one sentence.

      They get all their “news” from Fox, X, TikTok, and Facebook, from people who are not actual journalists. Half of the US electorate is ignorant, uninformed, or just plain stupid. Remember, 54% of American adults have a literacy below sixth-grade level. And that’s why Europe’s far-right declared war on science and education, too. They want to dumb down society, as well.

    2. BothZookeepergame612 on

      The EU has done more, while supporting Ukraine politically…
      The US has been proven to be fickled, as Trump has tried to undermine support for Ukraine for years now.
      Even when he wasn’t president, he has done everything in his power to degrade support…

    3. Even with the bullshit US accounting (giving a 30-year old tank and valuing it as if it was brand-new), the EU has given double what the US has.

    4. heatrealist on

      Fake news. Only counts what Ukraine has received from America but counts still yet to be distributed by europe. Also ignores that some US aid went to NATO allies for giving up their old weapons to Ukraine and to help replace them.

    5. Frozenbeeff on

      Both the EU and USA have done nothing to end the war.

      Yes they’ve helped Ukraine endure and that’s good/ the right thing however they should have been having CONSTANT talks to Russia/Putin, not cutting off all contact and adding sanction after sanction. All that’s done is extend the war.

    6. BuffaloBillyBob1 on

      NATO GDP spending on defense by Europe (and Canada) would say otherwise…

    7. Competitive_Bee2596 on

      Ukraine needs weapons. Europe doesn’t have necessary weapons, America does.

      The EU has placed itself in a position of impotence systematically over 40 years…

      AND refused to arm(except Poland) in response to the first Ukraine invasion in 2014.

      The EU can’t come to a consensus internally on how to proceed on Ukraine and Trump is correct to ignore them.

    8. Travel-Barry on

      The US administration is thick as shit. 

      They expect single countries to be matching their spend for things like Ukraine support/Defence budget without even momentarily thinking about the accumulated numbers when you take the continent as a whole. 

    9. Scary-Consequence-58 on

      The game isnt “who is doing more, the USA or EU?”

      The game is “can you out produce and beat Russia?”

      The USA can. The EU cannot. That’s why the EU finds itself sidelined and irrelevant.

    10. calwin258 on

      Ukraine situation is done. EU has no other option other than accepting the deal it seems🥲

    11. Ambitious_Face7310 on

      Keep shouting the truth Europe. Maybe some Americans will hear you.

    12. kongkongkongkongkong on

      Congrats. Then you can keep doing more and keep funding the war.

    13. Affectionate_Cat293 on

      People here clearly don’t read the article, which says:

      “Lulled by decades of peace, Europe’s defense industry has struggled to catch up with the high-attrition warfare in Ukraine, often failing on its promises to deliver arms and ammunition as fast as needed. To whip the European defense industry into shape, Brussels has appointed veteran Lithuanian politician Andrius Kubilius as its first-ever defense commissioner.”

      Kubilius then said: “When we look at military support, yes, Americans provided around $60 billion, and European support is 48 billion euros ($50 billion).”

      The problem is that Europe at present does not make many of the weapons Ukraine used to get from the US (Patriots, HIMARS) or they make them in inadequate quantities (155 mm ammunition, 120×570mm ammunition, howitzer barrels). Comparing the value of the packages from Europe and the US cannot be meaningfully expressed in terms of cost alone. So all this talk about “Europe gave more to Ukraine!!!!” is meaningless and no more than d*ck-measuring contest, because the reality is that Europe cannot support Ukraine alone if the US totally pulls out of all commitments in the European continent.

      [“There is often a big gap between capabilities and troop readiness,” Ben Barry, a former British army brigadier and a senior fellow at London’s International Institute for Strategic Studies, said. “It is also far from clear that European forces have sufficient stockpiles of ammunition, supplies and spare parts.”](https://www.ft.com/content/beb38eb8-408c-4cdb-8086-77545d52099f)

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