È straziante pensare che l’accordo di Trump possa rendere tutto ciò che l’Ucraina ha combattuto per insignificanti. Ecco perché l’Europa deve resistere a Trump e agli Stati Uniti con risoluzione educata ma ferma. È l’unico approccio che qualcuno come Trump rispetterà. La sicurezza e l’integrità dell’Ucraina dovrebbero avere importanza per tutti noi, e se non possiamo fare affidamento sugli Stati Uniti, dobbiamo rivolgerci l’uno all’altro, mettere da parte le differenze e portare la sicurezza del nostro continente nelle nostre mani.
Trump ha chiarito che gli Stati Uniti non possono più essere considerati un alleato affidabile. Le sue minacce e la retorica dipingono gli Stati Uniti meno come partner e più come estorsione all’interno della sfera occidentale. Non si tratta solo di Ucraina: riguarda il futuro della stabilità e della resilienza europea.
L’Ucraina sta vincendo questa guerra. La Russia è svuotata economicamente e militarmente, a malapena in grado di avanzare oltre pochi metri a un immenso costo umano e materiale. Non è sostenibile. L’Europa può aiutare l’Ucraina a raggiungere la vittoria, anche senza il supporto degli Stati Uniti, se ci raduniamo e affrontiamo queste minacce come fronte unito.
Trump ha criticato da tempo il coinvolgimento della NATO e degli Stati Uniti in Europa, quindi perché non prenderlo alla sua parola? Una ferma posizione europea esporrebbe le contraddizioni nella sua retorica e dimostrerebbe che l’Europa non sarà vittima di bullismo. Se gli Stati Uniti tirano fuori, mina l’influenza globale americana e innesca un contraccolpo politico interno. Sfontando il loro terreno, l’Europa sposta la dinamica del potere e lascia Trump che sembra quella in ritirata.
Abbiamo bisogno che la nostra leadership sia forte per tutti noi ora.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin-trump-frontline-b2700988.html
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SO that’s what we hear in Poland as well. Before Trump election no one believe in peace.
1) Ukraine got mass production of drones and military equipment.
2) drones are everywhere on the front, less soldiers are dying.
3) Ukraine is doing extra money in Africa. Doing service for warlords.
4) Ukraine strikes go deeper in Russia.
They are not winning. But they don’t lose hard.
I’m not sure what will happen if Ukraine breakers from US leash, they might go to there old idea, try to kill Putin and Russia officials, generals.
So everything might escalate hard.
Ukraine is not winning.
That’s why Trump is in the picture, to help Russia continue its invasion.
>Ukraine is winning this war.
A Russian flag could be flying in Kiev right now and for people like you Ukraine would still be winning the war. You should try for the olympics in the mental gymnastics category.
What can one do to save Europe? What can one do to save one’s future?
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Yep! That’s right. Donating to Ukraine helps save lives and helps our brave brothers fight against shitcoats!
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Russia won’t win on the battlefield if the European partners continue to support the brave Ukrainians, actually increase their support in the coming months thanks to political change in the biggest EU country, which is likely (CDU frontman Friedrich Merz has repeatedly expressed his support for delivering Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine, for example, the longest range of its kind from European production).
But behind closed doors, Ukraine will be stabbed in the back by the weakest, most pathetic US administration in living memory.
That doesn’t mean that Ukraine and Europe have just to accept it, though. There will be no peace if Ukraine and Europe are not involved in the negotiations.
Americans are gleefully throwing their allies under the bus. They don’t give a shit about freedom. Not the freedom of others, not the freedom of their own.
Russia is about co collapse
Russia is occupying 20% of Ukraine. There is no meaningful definition of “wining” that applies to Ukraine.
Anyway…don’t take the US deal…take the European one instead…it’s totally your choice.
Russia has little offensive capability in 2025. People seem to have amnesia about what they were posting about in October 2024 and the inevitable fall of Pokrovsk. They are consistently wrong about everything in this war, but they know that if they force the narrative eventually they can claim victory after a favourable to Russia settlement is reached. Before Pokrovsk it was Kharkiv falling in a month. Before Kharkiv the Eastern front was collapsing and Russia would be at the Dnipro. 3 days to conquer Ukraine, and then marching to Berlin.
Saying that Ukraine is winning the war of attrition with US aid. They haven’t had offensive capacity at any time during this war. They’re not winning any of their territory back. They’re going to take a lot of more losses without US aid. So of course they’re going to be concentrating on keeping that aid.
The narrative that Russia is relentlessly marching West is a myth. It’s a choice by Ukraine to limit losses, the same way they stopped their 2023 offensive after little fighting.
Ukraine is getting ramrodded. Look at body exchanges.
It’s 10:1 Ukrainian bodies to Russian ones. It’s a lost war. Ukraine should cut a deal before Putin takes even more.
Ukraine needs to start launching more offensives and take back land if you want more support.
Sadly that’s not what the map says.
People in West tend to think Russia is “winning”. What actually happens is that Russia burns a thousand (literally 1000+) men daily on average for the exchange of minor tactical (non strategical) advances. If they wanted to reach the Dnieper river this way it would literally take them decades. Compare a year ago front line and today’s. They only do it for the sake of the favorable information background for Trump and other polititians so that they can yell “Russia is winning, Ukraine is loosing”.
Could a major Ukraine strike across Russian critical infrastructure (I’m thinking oil primarily) be enough to change the narrative? We’ve long been hearing reports of Ukraine being required to restrict their offensive activities involving the use of US weapons or risk future US support, but if that support is now a thing of the past as seems evident then perhaps a mass strike that puts a substantial chunk of Russia’s refinery capacity out of commission for the medium term might create both military and political opportunities.
There should be no negotiation until Ukraine has all their land back
NATO would benefit from having such determined, brave, and experienced soldiers among its allied force.
I’m beginning to find hope in all this. Usually, when a shitstorm is fanned by the Kremlin, it means the exact opposite of what they’re trying to convey.
Right now the Kremlin message, amplified by Trump is “It’s game over for Ukraine, you’re screwed, you can’t survive without the US”. When you put this messaging through a Soviet propaganda translator this means “It’s game over for Russia, we’re screwed, we can’t survive this even if the US pulls out because Europe”.
I hope I’m right and I hope what this really means is Putin is well and truly on the ropes. They have nothing left, the Russians are on the verge of collapse and all it would take would be another Kursk offensive to see a huge Ukrainian breakthrough.
I hope I’m right. I really do.
I so fucking badly want to visit Odessa and Crimea once the Orcs have been banished.
No the only response Trump understands is fuck you, anything less he sees as a weakness.
lol. Avdiika. Bakmut. Chasiv Yar. Which side is capturing what city now? Which side is having manpower shortages now?
Ukraine has had years to repulse Russia. It’s 11 years since the Crimean takeover. How much longer is this grand plan?
Welcome to the r/europe metaverse
That’s why Putin and Trump want to negotiate now. Putin is losing, fast. Now is the time to push hard