Il doppio discorso di Trump sull’autonomia strategica europea “Quando l’UE ha proposto modeste iniziative di difesa, i dipartimenti di Trump si sono fortemente opposti. Nonostante l’avversione di Trump alla NATO, ha cercato di garantire il primato degli Stati Uniti in Europa”
https://www.csis.org/analysis/united-states-now-wants-european-strategic-autonomy
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This one explains how europe spending less was a plan of nato not a bug of it, and it was in exchange for accepting and perpetuating a situation where US only was the big power.
[https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-dependence-on-the-us-was-all-part-of-the-plan-donald-trump-nato/](https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-dependence-on-the-us-was-all-part-of-the-plan-donald-trump-nato/)
Also see here how Biden was less opposed than trump to Europe being truly able to independently defend itself!!
[https://www.politico.eu/article/report-joe-biden-should-push-eu-to-become-a-global-military-power-nato-defense/?utm_source=chatgpt.com](https://www.politico.eu/article/report-joe-biden-should-push-eu-to-become-a-global-military-power-nato-defense/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
Before the Biden administration, convincing Europe to give up cheap Russian energy and embrace high-priced American energy was a fool’s errand.
Before the Biden, the US had to spend trillions of dollars to establish a foothold in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and the Far East to resist the expansion of Russia’s totalitarian government. Now it only takes a few hundred billion dollars to get a developed country with a Slavic democracy to support and deliver a coffin to the Russians.
God has given the Americans two gifts. And TRUMP and half of America threw them all away. LOL
Europeans have been given a valuable opportunity to return to pragmatic energy and industrial policies that bridge the class divide, narrow the gap between rich and poor and transfer wealth to the young and the poor. But it ultimately depends on whether Europeans themselves remember humanism, and whether groups of people (especially the rich) are willing to cede their interests for the sake of solidarity.
Been saying it all along the US were happy to be the dominant partner in NATO and calling the shots, whilst getting us into stupid wars.
The non-proliferation treaty might be the best example. Sweden was quite close getting nukes, and that would’ve made a much stronger Europe.
Yes. There are a ridiculous amount of US lobbyists in brussels and capitals doing everything in their power to extract European talent, European resources and practically make Europe donate money to the US.
Europe should not listen.
It’s good to cooperate with the US, but Europe should be able to go alone if needed because otherwise, it gives Americans leverage to blackmail Europe with its security. As a result, we are not self-dependent, we are wasting billions to feed American companies while buying their weapons and tech(not developing our own as a result), and we can’t do politics that the US doesn’t like because again – the leverage. I think people would sleep much better if Europe became more independent to a degree when it doesn’t care much whether the US will be an ally or just neutral.
I don’t believe that a continent with twice as large population as the US and comparable GDP can’t do that
The US under this administration needs to be contained the same way China was/is and treated as a hostile power. Every move it makes against its neighbors(Canada, Greenland) needs to be challenged and counteracted. If left unchecked, Trump could be emboldened enough to make good on his invasion threats.
#PRÉCIS: Washington’s Shift – Trump’s Second Term and the Future of European Security
The re-election of Donald Trump is set to shake the foundations of transatlantic relations. His administration is expected to step back from its traditional role as Europe’s security guarantor, ushering in a profound change in US foreign policy. Rather than preserving America’s dominant position in Europe, Trump appears poised to leave Europeans to manage their own defence. This shift, however, should not simply be an abrupt retreat. If handled recklessly, it could leave Europe vulnerable, disorganised, and more inclined to hedge its bets in the escalating rivalry between the US and China. A managed transition, rather than a sudden withdrawal, is in everyone’s best interests.
Since the Second World War, the United States has played an indispensable role in Europe’s security. Initially reluctant, Washington soon became the driving force behind NATO’s formation in 1949, ensuring the West remained protected from Soviet expansion. Over time, however, Europe’s reliance on American military power has discouraged the continent from developing a truly independent defence capability. Even when European nations have increased military spending, their efforts have remained fragmented, with the US maintaining its grip on NATO decision-making. Successive American administrations, including Trump’s first term, have actively opposed EU-led defence initiatives, wary of any move towards European strategic autonomy.
Yet, a shift in Washington’s stance has been quietly underway. Trump’s second term, in contrast to his first, is expected to see a far more determined effort to scale back America’s role in Europe. His administration may withdraw troops, reduce key military commitments, or even step back from NATO’s leadership structure. The theory behind this approach is simple—force Europe to stand on its own feet by shocking it into action. However, such a blunt strategy risks backfiring. If Europe fails to unite in response, it could descend into further division, leaving its security architecture in disarray and creating a vacuum that the US might eventually be forced to re-enter.
Beyond security, an uncontrolled break from Europe could also damage America’s broader strategic and economic interests. Washington has used its security commitments as leverage to align Europe with its China policy, particularly in restricting exports of crucial technology. A transatlantic rift could weaken this alignment, making European nations less inclined to follow America’s lead. Moreover, US arms sales to Europe would likely decline, as European countries would increasingly turn to homegrown alternatives. Europe, unburdened by its reliance on American security, might also feel freer to impose tougher regulations on American tech giants and other industries.
Rather than an abrupt withdrawal, the Trump administration would do well to steer Europe towards a structured transition. One step would be to push for a more defined “European pillar” within NATO, something European leaders have long spoken about but failed to realise. Washington should also encourage Europe to invest collectively in its defence, ensuring military spending translates into real capability rather than a patchwork of national forces with limited interoperability. Finally, the US must acknowledge the European Union’s growing geopolitical influence and support its efforts to develop a coordinated defence strategy, rather than obstructing them as past administrations have done.
Handled properly, this shift could make Europe stronger, more self-sufficient, and ultimately a more capable ally. If mismanaged, it could fracture transatlantic relations and create new uncertainties in global security. For Trump’s second term, the challenge lies not just in stepping back, but in doing so with a steady hand.
People should read about the conservatives and influential thinktank bell foundation. They already stated that it was in the interest of the USA to undermine the EU that it wont get strong. Its written in there strategic papers.
What’s wrong with the Americans
This article assumes that Trump’s actual goal is not to weaken Europe because he perceives it as an enemy, even though there is no other explanation for his actions. Opposing Europe’s « strategic autonomy » to keep it military weak while pulling out of NATO and removing U.S. bases in Europe to further weaken its defense has for only goal to allow Russia to more easily take over eastern Europe (again), weakening the European Union that Trump sees an economic rival (which is why he also wants to put tariff on European exports).
Of course, the goals of previous U.S. administrations was always to keep Europe (and all their other democratic allies in the world) military weak so it would stay dependent on the U.S. for its defense and could not effectively oppose the U.S. imperialistic foreign policy. In other words, it always was a toxic relationship. It is just even more toxic now because Trump is a fascist and hates western European democracies (as shown by his henchmen propping up the AfD in Germany).
European countries should reorganize and expand their militaries and weapon industries to effectively be able to defend the European Union and Ukraine without needing the U.S., and all those who can get nuclear weapons for deterrence should do so. Non-nuclear proliferation treaties were always here to keep the U.S., Russia, and China as dominant military powers by preventing weaker countries from getting their own MAD nuclear defense, not here to protect the world from nuclear weapons. France had to have a major diplomatic fight with the U.S. in the 1960s just to get her own nuclear deterence.
This is also valid for Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and all the other democraties in the world that so foolishly trusted the U.S. to defend them from Russia and China.
Even if nothing happens now and Trump is voted out of power in 4 years or dies, who knows when the U.S. will elect another Trump ?
American weaponry isn’t worth the materials it’s made from now that we know they’ll extort countries using it, for the wealth of that country in the form of not allowing it to buy ammo etc.
Despicable. The USA is no longer a trustworthy ally.
“Despite Trump’s aversion to NATO, he sought to ensure the US primacy in Europe”
Yeah… I think that ship has sailed. You can’t shit on the table and insult the host and expect to be invited again.
To have political influence in other, independent countries, you have to be diplomatic, reliable and strong. Trump doesn’t have anything of this.
Even if the government in the USA would change again for the better, the trust is gone. Everyone realized how fast the USA can change into a ridiculous clown show. Europe learned that we are on our own.
Balancing power between a number of world.powers us much better in the long term than there being a single world power
Trump is proving that now but similarly China taking the mantle of world superpower from the US would see a different but similar outcome to that which we are seeing now
The EU is or could be/should be a third world power to counterbalance the US and China in economic and military terms
“You are pathetic and you should get back to kitchen or I’ll leave you”
“Fine. Actually, I’m leaving right now”
“No, I didn’t mean it that way, I forbid you from leaving”.
Bloody ha ha ha.
So, he wants Europe to be at the mercy of US or Russia if he chooses to let Putin loose.
His goal is not to save America money or to strengthen Europes self reliance. His goal is to pave the way for Russian domination of Europe.
Everything Trump does makes sense when you view him as a Russian stooge working solely for Russian interests. Nothing he does makes sense without that insight.
“[…], but an abrupt pullback that leaves Europe in disarray is not in anyone’s interests […]”
This is not correct. It’s in Russia’s interest.
Given that Russia hasn’t managed to win in Ukraine, what are the chances of them successfully invading a NATO/EU member state? They seem to be much more successful at undermining the whole west with propaganda, disinformation and supporting the extreme right wing parties (and yes cutting sometimes data, energy cables in the baltic). Shouldn’t the EU focus more against this asymmetrical warfare, rather than panicking about thousands of Russian tanks flooding into Estonia or something?
The game is to flank Europe with Antagonistic USA on one side and Putin on the other. Putin’s plan.
So for now, USA needs to be against EU but leave the door open to setup some more traps in the future.
Concessions for Ukraine today, Concessions for Germany/Poland Tomorrow.
Good cop, bad cop, if you want it in another way
In a couple of years, we’ll be in a shooting war with the US over Greenland. Now is the time to get rid of US-dependent systems.
The US wanting to undermine the power of the UK and Europe is not a new thing at all. If anything we should thank Trump for being such an idiot that he would damage all the work the US has put into keeping it’s allies reliant on American support.
Before attempting to eliminate US lobbying EU should eliminate Russian spy and widespread sabotage of EU: including assassinations attempts of arm industry leaders not to say sabotage of infrastructure and German navy