Fintan O’Toole: Trump and Musk’s War on Science presenta un’opportunità sorprendente per l’Irlanda
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/02/25/trump-and-musks-war-on-science-presents-a-startling-opportunity-for-ireland/
di justformedellin
Fintan O’Toole: Trump and Musk’s War on Science presenta un’opportunità sorprendente per l’Irlanda
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/02/25/trump-and-musks-war-on-science-presents-a-startling-opportunity-for-ireland/
di justformedellin
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Its frustrating as fuck how a few of the more health related subs I visit for advice have started being invaded by anti-science fuckheads.
I’m already tired of the trump obsession online.
It’s 2016 all over again.
We should be offering visas and quick citizenship to medical and science professionals to come to Ireland. Educators too. We have massive shortages in these areas and a lot of professional people wanting to leave Trump’s USA.
Pair of cunts.
Yup. Europe, and Ireland of course, should be positioning ourselves as the US did in 1930s and 1940s. We should try and attract US and rest-of-world talent here. Although we really don’t have the transport, health, or housing infrastructure at the moment, lol. Slight snag in the plan.
Would there be any chance of a quote or summary of the article?
The EU should be offering them refuge from this modern McCarthyite witch hunt. Ireland trying on its own might not have much impact
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What a load of shite, we are exporting our educated workforce because they can’t afford to live here and this clown thinks we’re somehow in a position to take advantage of a hypothetical American brain drain ?
I thought we were full?
This argument is great in theory, but where are these scientists going to live?
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if we used the Apple settlement money to fund a massive talent poaching exercise like this?
Slim chance. We don’t have the high ranking universities, R&D base, salaries or quality of life to compete with what they’re on in the US.
Outside of the housing issue, there is the issue of research funding. Ireland has one of the lowest contributions to fundamental research funding in Europe, and it’s led to a highly competitive and underfunded situation. If the Irish government were to make a move to attract these people, they would need to consider start-up funds as well as infrastructure and equipment. Further, US prof salaries, especially the world renowned ones, are insanely high.
It’s all great on paper, but research is incredibly expensive. The question is, what is the endgame? 5 years down the line and the start-up funds dry up. What next?
Source: I worked in research in the US and now Ireland.
Ireland should definitely allocate significant resources from the tax base to backing Irish startups.
Critically the model of backing a startup to get floated in an IPO so everybody can “make out” is fundamentally flawed.
Warren Buffet long term investing, not punting on some random startup’s demented notions of IPOing and retiring to the Bahamas with no industrial development to show for it.
It has always been hard for a small island in the Atlantic to do domestic industrial development but, just accept that and do it anyway.
Accepting that 7/10 investments will loose money, 2/10 will break even and 1/10 will yield a profitable ROI – per the VC credo.
We just have to get over the apprehension to “funding golden circles” – the simple fact is, there is no avoiding this.
It is clinically demented to keep throwing money away on Christmas bribes and shaving % off of income tax.
I’m old enough to remember when Ireland had 16% unemployment and 10s of 1000s running out of the place every year.
We desperately need to translate US corporate tax income into long term domestic industrial development, warts and all – with the state ensuring ownership is kept within the state.