L’Europa deve rompere le catene delle leggi sulle munizioni
di CEPAORG
L’Europa deve rompere le catene delle leggi sulle munizioni
di CEPAORG
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“Europe chose to handicap itself with international legal agreements during the long peace, but these now threaten an effective defense against Russia.” Dan Rice argues that Europe must abandon restrictive munitions treaties, such as the Cluster Munitions Convention and the Ottawa Landmine Treaty, which undermine its defense capabilities against threats like Russia. Europe’s past decisions have weakened its military readiness, and immediate action is necessary to ensure security in an increasingly hostile environment.
Why should we fight if not for our values ?
— German company has a munitions factory in Switzerland
— Germany: “Switzerland, we need some ammo for our guns.”
— Switzerland: “No, fuck you.”
— Germany: “Okay. QQ”
When this happened, I thought it was a Monty Python sketch.
I hate that I agree with this but we’ve seen the effectiveness in Ukraine and with the much lower failure rate of modern variants it seems like something that should be in our arsenal. Just with restrictive guidelines on when to use.
“the long peace” ðŸ˜
Geneva Checklist Mode, engaged!
Presently even that which is promised is not being manufactured:
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-weapons-shells-european-union-eu-war-russia-investigation/33025300.html
We are in a dangerous moment where we are making a lot of promises to Ukraine about support that we lack capability to deliver. There is a new European summit once a week but we aren’t starting production at a new arms factory once a week.
We can easily beat Russia without cluster bombs or landmines, we just need to actually try
Please yes. That would give my EU defense stock portfolio another price bump
Yes totally, cluster weapons are an effective defence and also economically/ militarily more valuable viable . One shot from a HIMARS or artillery peice with a cluster shell can deny or destroy vehicles/ troops over a wider area and enable evasion from counter batteries. Same with mines if laid properly they can be used to channel attacking forces into a prearranged area for distruction. Using these weapons cuts away the use of russian meat waves, and the ability to over run positions and the safety of your own troops. Cluster weapons have evolved since veitnam and Afghanistan were they where deployed by aircraft resulting in miss fires and non explosion. Same with mines they if you want can be biodegradable /self-neutralise and only last for a set period of time thus avoidance of the silent killers. The technology is here today just slightly more expensive
Cluster munitions. No doubt they´re efficient but after a war any unexploded munitions are likely to kill and maim civilians for decades to come.
For a country that expects to fight mostly on foreign soil, this isn´t too much of a problem. It´s the other country that will suffer the long term effects anyway. The US is such a country. And Russia probably just doesn´t care.
For this reason European countries use more expensive tungsten/wolfram in anti tank munitions rather than depleted uranium. Any war fought in Europe where depleted uranium munitions are used may cause long term health hazards. Americans would be fighting abroad so US civilians are unlikely to suffer ill effects. And Russia… well again, that country doesn´t seem to care about a great many things.
So Mr Rice´s analysis is perfectly understandable from his American POV.
Poland didn’t sign the cluster munition agreement (the argument supposedly being “we need something in case we need to kill a lot of Russians”), but despite that afaik we aren’t currently producing any.
the nativity is really mindblowing, like we spent the last thirty years in a delirium. the whole world signed contacts with us and only we stick to it.
Australia has tungsten naturally occurring. Why don’t we start manufacturing munitions?
Just nuke Russia already