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    L’Europa inizia a preoccuparsi delle nuvole controllate dagli Stati Uniti

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    1. purpleowlie on

      We are just starting to wake up after decades of blindly trusting USA and relying on them way too much.

    2. cyberviking113 on

      Can confirm, we are re-running every risk assessment for every cloud provider…

      There is a good list of European alternatives here: [https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-platforms](https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-platforms)

      Personally, I can recommend OVH Cloud, they have a solid offering with reasonable pricing. They are not at Microsoft, AWS or Google’s level, yet, when it comes to security, but I really hope they can pull that together too.

    3. RedditGeekABC on

      Any why cannot these big tech companies decentralise their clouds and move them out of the US jurisdiction? I mean, if they manage to do it with their money, spreading it across different markets, they should also be able to store their customers’ data elsewhere.

      If this is too much to ask, they could allow their customers store their data with any cloud service of their choice, including the device backup. A win-win for everybody.

    4. SweetAlyssumm on

      As well they should. Too bad they ignored tech for so long. Now they have to play a pretty big game of catch up.

    5. iMissTheDays on

      All sorts of things, too many US companies provide critical technology, they’re now a risk. 

    7. MrCookie147 on

      Why doent europe create publicily founded internet plattforms. Like Youtube, Insta, Google. etc.
      They could boundle togehter all the public broadcasting networks in europe onto one unitfied european plattform.

    8. chrisni66 on

      This should have been a concern when the US Cloud Act came into force during his first term.
      It actually includes a provision that all US-based Cloud operators must turn over customer data, even if that data is hosted in other countries, upon request from US law enforcement…

      Why any European organisation would see that as acceptable is mind boggling.

    9. poedy78 on

      Begins? What a bad joke.

      A lot of people – like Schremm – were very vocal about this for years.
      Now having a big army with shiny stuff is fun.
      But, not really pratical if you store all your ‘sensitive’ stuff in US Cloud.

      But hey, EU overslept the Internet, so whateva

    11. ou-est-kangeroo on

      Its all fair and good to think about cloud

      But how about the basics like: phones, operating systems, computers, chips?

    12. empireofadhd on

      I have been thinking about this as well lately. Why do we pay so much to these American companies. It’s depressing.

      It will be difficult to find enough employees to implement it though. Imagine going away from PowerPoint and word or excel.

      I hope part of the German reindustrislization package includes some investments in servers. They should be the main drivers on this but they just want to make cars, not services or computers.

    14. Skeenss on

      We need European Foreign policy, not the blind following of the US we did for decades. Need real Diplomats, to stand for european values. And need to shift responsibilities within the EU around, Foreign policy and Defense should be a thing the EU does for all member nations. And the nations should do some of the tasks for themselves that the EU is currently wasting their time and resources on.

    16. Naduhan_Sum on

      I wonder wether Apple, Amazon and Microsoft are going to enjoy losing such a significant customer base.

    17. StupendousMalice on

      They really really should. The guy that owns them just turned WAPO into a right wing propaganda factory.

    18. son_of_wtf on

      They were OK with it, when the US was on their “side”…

    19. Brave_Confidence_278 on

      At least since Snowden, everyone should know that these systems cannot be trusted blindly. If you have any influence over these business decisions, please TRY to make a difference.

      YOU are our only hope, because these businesses often prioritize maximizing profits with minimal effort, and it may suddenly hit us all hard if they don’t consider the risks.

    20. gabachogroucho on

      As well you should. I wish I could give some reassurance but we are in the middle of a far right coup with no end in sight.

    22. _Reddit_2016 on

      Everyone should have their own data centre in their house

    24. Fit-Explanation168 on

      This has bothered me for such a long time. Everything is on AWS or in the process of being moved to AWS.

      I have heard the arguments for this many times. It’s cheaper, it’s a mature product, there’s a lot of developers who know how to use AWS, etc. There’s even been a push to develop purely AWS native serverless applications, so you are completely vendor locked. Everything from various infrastructure to government agencies are on AWS.

      Why are we so incredibly willing to give a single company a monopoly for the Internet? Similar services do exist in Europe, but they are never even considered. I have never heard of any projects ever talking if Scaleway, OHVCloud or STACKIT would be options. No, it’s only “should we move our application from on-premise to AWS?”

    25. Specific_Frame8537 on

      Cloud storage was always a bad idea.

      You’re just storing your data on somebody else’s computer.

    27. Von_Lexau on

      Just switched to Hetzner, running NextCloud. 1 TB of storage for 5-6 € a month. Easy setup, and I’m able to migrate the data easily to a self hosted server in the future.

    30. Potential-Stress-561 on

      Don’t forget your credit cards, Visa and Mastercard. Because there is no other way of paying for goods and services, right?

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