“È estorsione totale.” L’ex segretario alla Difesa del Regno Unito Ben Wallace è inquietante per l’accordo Minerali USA-Ukraine. “Cosa sta ottenendo Zelensky?”
“È estorsione totale.” L’ex segretario alla Difesa del Regno Unito Ben Wallace è inquietante per l’accordo Minerali USA-Ukraine. “Cosa sta ottenendo Zelensky?”
Extortion. I like that she had to ask again. Not used to such clear language.
PainInTheRhine on
This is also an indictment of Europe and UK . If Zelensky thought Europe can provide what US can, he would have told Trump to go fuck himself and made a better deal with EU/UK.
TokyoBaguette on
A serious UK politician? Haven’t seen that in a while
heavy-minium on
It’s even worse than extortion. There is no word for it, but maybe we should call it stealing. It’s more like somebody trying to gain something for free by injecting themselves into a dispute between two other people.
Edit: Actually, I did find a word. It should be called a **scam**.
diamanthaende on
He is absolutely right with everything he said. Good to see a British politician speaking so clearly on the issue for once, especially on US TV, even if that is a bit easier for someone who is not in an official position anymore.
But hats off, Mr. Wallace. Keep speaking truth to power.
RemnantOfSpotOn on
Ben Wallace should know its not signed yet so its attempted extortion yes… But far from signed
pickus_dickus on
Zelinsky needs to care for Trump’s narcissism… unfortunately. I personally would love if Zelinsky told him to go fuck himself, but it wouldn’t be a smart move. European politicians do the same, even though they despise him… and they do. Exceptions are Orban, Fico, Nigel boy and a few others. But they are worthless pieces of shit.
Tanckers on
it is extortion. i wish zelenskyy sided more with EU than US
Flaky-Jim on
Exactly. It’s a protection racket without the protection.
RoadandHardtail on
I consider it as a deal to keep Ukraine and the US engaged (keep talking). Because Ukraine and the US didn’t agree on the UN resolutions, the preamble of the deal (esp. Paragraph 5) does reflect their joint position, which can be taken forward in some way. At this point all Ukraine can do is to try to pull US away from Russia, no matter how impossible it seems.
Kymius on
I’m glad to see someone talk straight in this foggy period
cookiesnooper on
Zelensky is getting a false promise of security given by the UK, Russia …and the US of A. Just like when they gave up the nukes
lsmith77 on
I looked at the provisions from the contract that have been published and I don’t see exactly how the US is getting money here. All that is talked about there is a jointly owned fund into which both sides invest 50%-50% (Ukraine via its rare earth materials) and the fund is used for reconstruction of Ukraine. Did I miss something? Obviously I know what Trump is saying publicly but we all know he talks out of his ass 99.9% of the time. Can someone enlighten me what I am missing. Thx.
Well said that man. He talks a lot of sense when he sticks to military matters
D_LET3 on
Pro tip: Always remember to check the media bias of the outlet you’re reading
Bikalo on
He’s thinking he can just tell Trump to fuck off once this is over.
ViennaLager on
What is Zelensky getting for it? A truce? Peace? A period of time without his people being killed? Some time to rebuild the country, to be able to get membership in the EU? To make better arrangements for the future of his country?
And for himself hopefully a really long vacation to some nice warm beach where he can have a couple of drinks and think about something else than being in charge of a country at war.
Klangey on
Meanwhile Kier Starmer is over there this very minute pandering to Trump’s ego desperately looking to convince him the UK is America’s best friend in the hope some scraps come his way.
DismalMode7 on
I’m still confused about minerals deal… I mean, ukraine was an USSR dictated country for about 70 years… why soviets never found out ukraine had that resources? What was the deal to invade afghanistan leading to ussr end if they could harvest that much from ukraine?
Qunlap on
Just sign it now and break it later. Trump’s agreements aren’t worth the paper they’re written on anyway.
Travel-Barry on
Love how shocked she is that, up to very recently, we’ve still been in war debt to the US.
iirc we were event still paying off our slavery bill from the 1800s until 2018!
Naduhan_Sum on
As far as I understand, Ruzzia gets to keep all the occupied land, the USA gets the minerals and Ukraine gets what? Nothing. I wonder why Zelensky is signing this.
It is total extortion, and frankly reminiscent of the ~~liberation~~ exploitation of Irak. Oh and congrats to the Ukrainians taxpayers, who are now sponsoring US corporations which will *eventually, if need be*, give back *some* of that money to the Ukraine government. I laughed out loud while reading that clause. That’s racket money to promote looting, wonderful.
I can’t even blame the POTUS here. It was the US plan all along, Trump or no Trump.
PancakeOrder on
How many minerals did the US offer to their NATO partners after 9/11?
Next time they try to invoke article 5, the Europeans should totally bring this up, or tell the Americans to choke on it.
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Extortion. I like that she had to ask again. Not used to such clear language.
This is also an indictment of Europe and UK . If Zelensky thought Europe can provide what US can, he would have told Trump to go fuck himself and made a better deal with EU/UK.
A serious UK politician? Haven’t seen that in a while
It’s even worse than extortion. There is no word for it, but maybe we should call it stealing. It’s more like somebody trying to gain something for free by injecting themselves into a dispute between two other people.
Edit: Actually, I did find a word. It should be called a **scam**.
He is absolutely right with everything he said. Good to see a British politician speaking so clearly on the issue for once, especially on US TV, even if that is a bit easier for someone who is not in an official position anymore.
But hats off, Mr. Wallace. Keep speaking truth to power.
Ben Wallace should know its not signed yet so its attempted extortion yes… But far from signed
Zelinsky needs to care for Trump’s narcissism… unfortunately. I personally would love if Zelinsky told him to go fuck himself, but it wouldn’t be a smart move. European politicians do the same, even though they despise him… and they do. Exceptions are Orban, Fico, Nigel boy and a few others. But they are worthless pieces of shit.
it is extortion. i wish zelenskyy sided more with EU than US
Exactly. It’s a protection racket without the protection.
I consider it as a deal to keep Ukraine and the US engaged (keep talking). Because Ukraine and the US didn’t agree on the UN resolutions, the preamble of the deal (esp. Paragraph 5) does reflect their joint position, which can be taken forward in some way. At this point all Ukraine can do is to try to pull US away from Russia, no matter how impossible it seems.
I’m glad to see someone talk straight in this foggy period
Zelensky is getting a false promise of security given by the UK, Russia …and the US of A. Just like when they gave up the nukes
I looked at the provisions from the contract that have been published and I don’t see exactly how the US is getting money here. All that is talked about there is a jointly owned fund into which both sides invest 50%-50% (Ukraine via its rare earth materials) and the fund is used for reconstruction of Ukraine. Did I miss something? Obviously I know what Trump is saying publicly but we all know he talks out of his ass 99.9% of the time. Can someone enlighten me what I am missing. Thx.
Thankfully, Zelensky is [not letting Trump bully him.](https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2025/02/27/zelensky-stresses-ukraine-wont-pay-10-cents-to-us-in-revised-natural-resources-deal-en-news) He’s had three years with Putin, I trust he will stand his ground with Trump as well.
Well said that man. He talks a lot of sense when he sticks to military matters
Pro tip: Always remember to check the media bias of the outlet you’re reading
He’s thinking he can just tell Trump to fuck off once this is over.
What is Zelensky getting for it? A truce? Peace? A period of time without his people being killed? Some time to rebuild the country, to be able to get membership in the EU? To make better arrangements for the future of his country?
And for himself hopefully a really long vacation to some nice warm beach where he can have a couple of drinks and think about something else than being in charge of a country at war.
Meanwhile Kier Starmer is over there this very minute pandering to Trump’s ego desperately looking to convince him the UK is America’s best friend in the hope some scraps come his way.
I’m still confused about minerals deal… I mean, ukraine was an USSR dictated country for about 70 years… why soviets never found out ukraine had that resources? What was the deal to invade afghanistan leading to ussr end if they could harvest that much from ukraine?
Just sign it now and break it later. Trump’s agreements aren’t worth the paper they’re written on anyway.
Love how shocked she is that, up to very recently, we’ve still been in war debt to the US.
iirc we were event still paying off our slavery bill from the 1800s until 2018!
As far as I understand, Ruzzia gets to keep all the occupied land, the USA gets the minerals and Ukraine gets what? Nothing. I wonder why Zelensky is signing this.
Here’s the full text of the agreement: https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/articles/2025/02/26/7205922/
It is total extortion, and frankly reminiscent of the ~~liberation~~ exploitation of Irak. Oh and congrats to the Ukrainians taxpayers, who are now sponsoring US corporations which will *eventually, if need be*, give back *some* of that money to the Ukraine government. I laughed out loud while reading that clause. That’s racket money to promote looting, wonderful.
I can’t even blame the POTUS here. It was the US plan all along, Trump or no Trump.
How many minerals did the US offer to their NATO partners after 9/11?
Next time they try to invoke article 5, the Europeans should totally bring this up, or tell the Americans to choke on it.