Blackface is an interesting topic outside the US. In the US, I can understand the sensitivity because of its history.
Outside of the US, the term was never a thing, and although there is a racist history in places like Europe, there was never a large part of the history where Blackface was a thing the same way it was in the US.
Essentially, I am making the point that we should not simply inherit American terminology, ideology, and stereotypes simply because they have defined them. If something in today’s world reaches Americans and is sensitive to them, then that is a problem they must overcome themselves, and the world will not adjust its behaviour to accommodate the sensitivity of its history.
Now with that being said, it is not to say that Blackface is appropriate and is not racist outside of the US. Unlike in the US, where a caucasian person painting their skin black is totally off limits in all circumstances, I believe in places like Belgium it is up for interpretation. There was a situation a few years ago, where a young child in Australia for their equivalent of carnival went to school painted black to mimic a local Australian football player that was black and who he absolutely idolised. The child didn’t see race, he simply wanted to look like his idol and the black coloured skin was a key part to identify as him. It was innocent and of good nature.
The same with this image, looking at a bald male painted black with a Belgian jersey, all I can think of is Lukaku. Same way dressing as Tin Tin requires white skin, an iconic outfit and a blonde quiff, you cannot simply mimic the physical identity of Lukaku without being black. But is it necessary for a grown man to do this? Was he making a mockery of Lukaku, does he see Lukaku as a god and honoured to mimic his appearance?
It is a tricky one,, but the moral of my message is that we should not simply adopt or reject things from the US to accommodate their sensitivity and history. Same way we should debate Zwarte Piet based on our interpretations and cultural sensitivity and not simply ban it because ‘Blackface is wrong’.
PygmeePony on
Looks like the average football fan.
Life-Bell902 on
I don’t believe there’s any racism involved in this photo. These people are impersonating the Belgian footballers their admire. Please do not spread hate where there is no hate.
ericsken on
Een beter bewijs van integratie is er niet. Mensen van Afrikaanse afkomst die deelnemen aan het Belgische carnaval. Ook het thema is goed gekozen. Belgischer dan dat wordt het niet. Het thema zet aan tot nadenken over migratie en integratie van migranten. Ik stel mij de vraag: “is dit integratie of assimilatie?”
theta0123 on
I dont get it… are they cosplaying as the red devils from the past or?
Edit= zoomed in….oooh i get it…
DangerDani on
Ik heb meerdere keren moeten kijken voor ik door had dat dit witte mensen zijn die zich zwart gemaakt hadden… en zelfs nu twijfel ik! Ik ben zelf geen carnavalsmens. Is carnaval niet de bedoeling om alle politieke correctheid weg te laten?
Isn’t he the guy from the Atalanta Inter after the Hazard Diet ?
kb24fgm41 on
He’s trying to be Lukaku and he looks like him, what’s wrong with it?
TjeefGuevarra on
On one hand it’s karnaval and I highly doubt they’re trying to mock or insult black people, if anything they’re probably thinking they’re praising them or complimenting them by dressing up as them.
On the other hand it’s the Denderstreek, so there’s a genuine 50% chance they’re VB voters and full on racists.
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Football is the bane of sports
Godja, an sich in een positief daglicht toch geen probleem?
Oof my feelings cant handle this
Dit is kut.
Is dat Vital Borkelmans met een truitje van Amy Sonck?
Lukaku staat precies toch wa vet 🤷♂️
Kwam Lukaku speciaal naar België om carnaval te vieren?
This makes me sad, tired, and angry all at once.
Edit: lol at me being downvoted for being anti-racist.
peak reddit
Not funny!
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Gesponsord door Jupiler. 🍺
Blackface is an interesting topic outside the US. In the US, I can understand the sensitivity because of its history.
Outside of the US, the term was never a thing, and although there is a racist history in places like Europe, there was never a large part of the history where Blackface was a thing the same way it was in the US.
Essentially, I am making the point that we should not simply inherit American terminology, ideology, and stereotypes simply because they have defined them. If something in today’s world reaches Americans and is sensitive to them, then that is a problem they must overcome themselves, and the world will not adjust its behaviour to accommodate the sensitivity of its history.
Now with that being said, it is not to say that Blackface is appropriate and is not racist outside of the US. Unlike in the US, where a caucasian person painting their skin black is totally off limits in all circumstances, I believe in places like Belgium it is up for interpretation. There was a situation a few years ago, where a young child in Australia for their equivalent of carnival went to school painted black to mimic a local Australian football player that was black and who he absolutely idolised. The child didn’t see race, he simply wanted to look like his idol and the black coloured skin was a key part to identify as him. It was innocent and of good nature.
The same with this image, looking at a bald male painted black with a Belgian jersey, all I can think of is Lukaku. Same way dressing as Tin Tin requires white skin, an iconic outfit and a blonde quiff, you cannot simply mimic the physical identity of Lukaku without being black. But is it necessary for a grown man to do this? Was he making a mockery of Lukaku, does he see Lukaku as a god and honoured to mimic his appearance?
It is a tricky one,, but the moral of my message is that we should not simply adopt or reject things from the US to accommodate their sensitivity and history. Same way we should debate Zwarte Piet based on our interpretations and cultural sensitivity and not simply ban it because ‘Blackface is wrong’.
Looks like the average football fan.
I don’t believe there’s any racism involved in this photo. These people are impersonating the Belgian footballers their admire. Please do not spread hate where there is no hate.
Een beter bewijs van integratie is er niet. Mensen van Afrikaanse afkomst die deelnemen aan het Belgische carnaval. Ook het thema is goed gekozen. Belgischer dan dat wordt het niet. Het thema zet aan tot nadenken over migratie en integratie van migranten. Ik stel mij de vraag: “is dit integratie of assimilatie?”
I dont get it… are they cosplaying as the red devils from the past or?
Edit= zoomed in….oooh i get it…
Ik heb meerdere keren moeten kijken voor ik door had dat dit witte mensen zijn die zich zwart gemaakt hadden… en zelfs nu twijfel ik! Ik ben zelf geen carnavalsmens. Is carnaval niet de bedoeling om alle politieke correctheid weg te laten?
https://preview.redd.it/l37ysp7h4gme1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc2503db8ccb3f2bedeaf31edd39c5270e0fceda
Isn’t he the guy from the Atalanta Inter after the Hazard Diet ?
He’s trying to be Lukaku and he looks like him, what’s wrong with it?
On one hand it’s karnaval and I highly doubt they’re trying to mock or insult black people, if anything they’re probably thinking they’re praising them or complimenting them by dressing up as them.
On the other hand it’s the Denderstreek, so there’s a genuine 50% chance they’re VB voters and full on racists.
Could even be a combination of both.
I dont understand the problem?
Yeah there’s always some in blackface