Pensieri sul Belgio sono assenti dalla “coalizione della volontà”?
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Pensieri sul Belgio sono assenti dalla “coalizione della volontà”?
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Honestly, not surprising given our lackluster defence budget…
I don’t know if it has to do with us freeloading or our minister of defence talking about forcing concessions on Zelenski. In any case we should do better.
Smart of them to invite only the ones that are most likely to be “willing”. Sad for us that we belong to the same group as Slovakia and Hungary, apparently.
Apparently, we weren’t invited. Which is no wonder seeing how little we can bring to the table.
I wonder if Theo was stung or relieved since he feels Ukraine should give up territory.
mmm. no liking it. Were we not willing, not able or not invited?
Proud belgian here…
I’m not at all shocked we weren’t invited, we need to up our spending on defense. Can’t see what our input could have been.
FN will produce more now, that’s good.
Prime minister De Wever has stated that he is open to sending troops. Our defense minister is in India at the moment
We should be in there if only for token help, and to colour in the map completely to show signs of unity. I understand we’re not able to bring much to the table, but anything is better than nothing…
Some say the Netherlands were expected to speak for the benelux
Coalition of the willing.
Or coalition of the able?
Belgium has no international presence, doesn’t meet NATO defence targets, and doesn’t have any leaders of significant stature or charisma.
´Coalition of the willing who have a functional military´.
There, fixed it. It looks like Belgium is – finally – going to invest more in defense. Sadly enough our defense minister seems bent on buying American stuff when there are viable European alternatives. Missile defense is a big one.
Op VRT NWS zei Annelies Van Herck: “Is het niet stilaan genant aan het worden?” – Awel ja, ik vind van wel. Natuurlijk is het ook geen simpele taak om de tanker ineens te keren… en om nog meer geld te vinden (zonder aan de sociale zekerheid te zitten). Het is een ondankbare taak om jarenlange opbouw van schulden ongedaan te maken.
With 1.3 % of GNP on Defence, we have nothing to contribute to that club.
Either the Belgian invitee didn’t bother to change his plans and show up, which would be a disgrace, or Belgium was not invited, which would be a disgrace. No invitation because of Uncle Theo’s recent comments ?
I would very much like to hear Bart De Wever explain the reason before Parliament.
Not a fan of it, even if we don’t spend enough on defense, this is also about how we present ourselves to the rest of the world. Who knows, many years from now this might be looked back on as a historic moment, and Belgium will be blatantly absent.
It’s not like we can do anything. We don’t have a real army anymore.
Invitations are public expressions. The actual ‘invitation’ happens before, when countries communicate and decisions are already made. Then the invite is either sent and rejected or no invite is sent, depending on the public display that is strived for.
Rejecting would give Belgium a bad look. No invitation is this case is more politically friendly.
Belgium should spend so much more on their Defense. There is plenty of money. Just the wrong places it’s spent on.
De Wever is op wintersport. Gaan diene mens zijn dik verdiend verlof toch niet onderbreken voor zo’n fait divers zeker?
Can’t shake the feeling that our eu reputation has something to do with it as well.
They want to pick up the pace, not bog/slow it down months by that one annoying place where 5 mini govs first need to find some form of consensus before federal level will even touch it.
Perhaps they are slightly weary of our Trump-liking defense minister?
Belgium be like: maybe if we stay quiet no one will notice we’re here
Embarrassing is my first thought.. Irrelevance is not something to be proud of, especially when you’re considered one of the richer countries.
Idealiter worden zowel de politieke als de operationele tak van het nieuwe EU leger in België gevestigd zoals dat met NATO HQ en SHAPE ook was/is. Als België afwezig is dan helpt dat onze diplomatieke belangen niet. De huidige militaire organen van de EU zitten in Brussel. MPCC en JSCC zitten beiden in het Kortenberggebouw in de Europese buurt waar de ganse Common Security and Defence Policy op EU-niveau samen zit. De politieke tak zit dus al deels in Brussel. Nu nog de operationele. Dat zit nu allemaal verspreid. Je hebt operationeel op EU (EUFOR en EU Battlegeoups). Daar heb je o. a. de Multinational Joint Headquarters in Ulm. Maar er is ook op EU-verdragsniveau (EUROCORPS). EUROCORPS zit in Straatsburg. Ergens in Noord-Frankrijk zit er ook nog een HQ waarvan de naam mij ontglipt. Extreem onduidelijk en versnipperde structuur. Idealiter kunnen we een deel van deze versnipperde HQ groeperen bij de SHAPE of in een soort Pentagon bij Brussel. Ideaal lijkt mij ergens de velden buiten de ring thv Grimbergen of Melsbroek te zijn. Evident lijkt mij dat NIET. Al heel zeker niet als je niet aan tafel zit. Blunder van Dewever en Francken die hier geen visie hebben.
It’s embarrassing
We are being smart
Well we have nothing to offer, so why would they care about our opinion?
Belgium military is 10 planes 40k people and two boat. What did you expect? Belgium is also Benelux, Holland was there for the union.