How would they be equipped? The production of arms and munitions in Europe is overstretched just supplying the Ukrainian forces currently. Deploying more men is unlikely to swing the war substantially, deploying more industrial capacity is.
Ok_Initiative_9726 on
Tbh, everyone knows nuke is bluff from all sides. But nobody wants to test it.
Skoofout on
I doubt Putin wants to spend rest of his glorious days in bunker
jvd0928 on
French and British nukes work fine. These will deter Putin from a nuclear strike on Britain.
Jake_Bluuse on
Trump and Putin will nuke Europe if it does anything close to it.
Proudofhisname on
Yeah, no nuclear armageddon now, just nuked Europe, we are free to attack Russia now /s
TianZiGaming on
Did the US really remove itself from the equation, or did they simply shift their position in the equation? Boots on the ground at a minimum needs a guarantee that both the USA and China don’t end up helping Russia. USA removing monetary support to Ukraine’s war can be covered by other countries, but refusing to sell weapons or pulling out Starlink would be problems money doesn’t really fix in the short term.
If the EU or UK were to put boots on the ground, it seems like that should have happened in the 3 years before Trump’s reelection.
BarbecueChickenBBQ on
EU troops should be in Ukraine long time ago.
The_Duke28 on
In a perfect world, Europe would step up now, give putin an ultimatum, something like “You have 3 days to leave Ukraine or we’ll kick you out”. If he’s not leaving, we would establish a no fly zone over Ukraine and give overwhelming air support to ukraine. If this is not enough, Europe would send troops to kick russia out back to the original borders. After that it would create a bufferzone along the border with Neutral countries such as Switzerland to make sure nobody violates any agreements.
One can dream…
Guilty-Spork343 on
…how has it removed itself?
The nuclear arsenal still exists, and they’re all still free to use them. I’d say this actually makes it WORSE, because Trump is so stupid and small-minded that he’d actually fire missiles himself AT Europe to stop an attack on Russia. Because he probably thinks he could start and “win” a limited nuclear war.
During his first term, John Brennan and the Chief of the US Joint Chiefs agreed on a code to REVOKE use of the nuclear football, because the way the system works by default- the President doesn’t actually need ANYONE to authorize the use of nuclear weapons, except literally the officer carrying the transmitter.
The saving grace, which is in doubt if you got him mad enough – is that he is literally an abject coward. So if he actually thought ahead, he’d realize that surviving that would guarantee he’d be hunted and killed like a dog. We saw how badly he wanted to please his master on Saturday, shouting and going off script, saying the quiet part out loud to tell everyone what a wonderful guy Vladimir Putin is. So actually threatening Putin I think would make him actively try to defend Russia – the question then, is.. how intelligent and moral are American soldiers and their commanding officers? And do their take THEIR oath to defend the United States more seriously than Trump takes his?
My grandparents didn’t fight in WWII to see this shitstorm again.
Push Putin back to Moscow and let him take the coward’s way out like Hitler did.
The world will be a better place for it.
bhaaad on
Sorry, but I don’t believe in this anymore. They all are too afraid to do something really meaningful, easier to throw some money or organise some meeting. Or declare weapon production increase and fail miserably
fuckingsignupprompt on
If European troops entered Ukraine in large enough numbers to make a difference, Russia wouldn’t nuke France or UK, it would nuke Ukraine. And no, not even France or UK would start a nuke war to avenge Ukraine.
r2k398 on
If they were going to put boots on the ground wouldn’t they have done it by now?
ImoveFurnituree on
I love seeing this post when just earlier someone posted a graph poling Europeans. It said that the majority of people think they need to help more, but then the poll shows that those same people don’t think the help should come from their own country.
Next-Seaweed-1310 on
Reading these comments shows how absolutely moronic Reddit users are 😂
eriomys79 on
Macron wants to administer Europe, Starmer does not want anything without the USA and Germany has no government. Good luck
AffectionateAd7651 on
Will you be volunteering? No? Then stfu.
“War is delightful to those who have never experienced it”
Omnio- on
There is one problem with your plan: none of these countries have the desire to do this.
aostrin on
If they don’t, there’s a high risk that Putin will actually nuke Kyiv. After all, what’s stopping him now?
PhotonDealer2067 on
Trump may not be a Russian asset, but he’s doing everything a Russian asset would do.
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You aint playing a video game bro
How would they be equipped? The production of arms and munitions in Europe is overstretched just supplying the Ukrainian forces currently. Deploying more men is unlikely to swing the war substantially, deploying more industrial capacity is.
Tbh, everyone knows nuke is bluff from all sides. But nobody wants to test it.
I doubt Putin wants to spend rest of his glorious days in bunker
French and British nukes work fine. These will deter Putin from a nuclear strike on Britain.
Trump and Putin will nuke Europe if it does anything close to it.
Yeah, no nuclear armageddon now, just nuked Europe, we are free to attack Russia now /s
Did the US really remove itself from the equation, or did they simply shift their position in the equation? Boots on the ground at a minimum needs a guarantee that both the USA and China don’t end up helping Russia. USA removing monetary support to Ukraine’s war can be covered by other countries, but refusing to sell weapons or pulling out Starlink would be problems money doesn’t really fix in the short term.
If the EU or UK were to put boots on the ground, it seems like that should have happened in the 3 years before Trump’s reelection.
EU troops should be in Ukraine long time ago.
In a perfect world, Europe would step up now, give putin an ultimatum, something like “You have 3 days to leave Ukraine or we’ll kick you out”. If he’s not leaving, we would establish a no fly zone over Ukraine and give overwhelming air support to ukraine. If this is not enough, Europe would send troops to kick russia out back to the original borders. After that it would create a bufferzone along the border with Neutral countries such as Switzerland to make sure nobody violates any agreements.
One can dream…
…how has it removed itself?
The nuclear arsenal still exists, and they’re all still free to use them. I’d say this actually makes it WORSE, because Trump is so stupid and small-minded that he’d actually fire missiles himself AT Europe to stop an attack on Russia. Because he probably thinks he could start and “win” a limited nuclear war.
During his first term, John Brennan and the Chief of the US Joint Chiefs agreed on a code to REVOKE use of the nuclear football, because the way the system works by default- the President doesn’t actually need ANYONE to authorize the use of nuclear weapons, except literally the officer carrying the transmitter.
The saving grace, which is in doubt if you got him mad enough – is that he is literally an abject coward. So if he actually thought ahead, he’d realize that surviving that would guarantee he’d be hunted and killed like a dog. We saw how badly he wanted to please his master on Saturday, shouting and going off script, saying the quiet part out loud to tell everyone what a wonderful guy Vladimir Putin is. So actually threatening Putin I think would make him actively try to defend Russia – the question then, is.. how intelligent and moral are American soldiers and their commanding officers? And do their take THEIR oath to defend the United States more seriously than Trump takes his?
I’ll just leave this here…
[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-bible-inauguration/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-bible-inauguration/)
Please do.
My grandparents didn’t fight in WWII to see this shitstorm again.
Push Putin back to Moscow and let him take the coward’s way out like Hitler did.
The world will be a better place for it.
Sorry, but I don’t believe in this anymore. They all are too afraid to do something really meaningful, easier to throw some money or organise some meeting. Or declare weapon production increase and fail miserably
If European troops entered Ukraine in large enough numbers to make a difference, Russia wouldn’t nuke France or UK, it would nuke Ukraine. And no, not even France or UK would start a nuke war to avenge Ukraine.
If they were going to put boots on the ground wouldn’t they have done it by now?
I love seeing this post when just earlier someone posted a graph poling Europeans. It said that the majority of people think they need to help more, but then the poll shows that those same people don’t think the help should come from their own country.
Reading these comments shows how absolutely moronic Reddit users are 😂
Macron wants to administer Europe, Starmer does not want anything without the USA and Germany has no government. Good luck
Will you be volunteering? No? Then stfu.
“War is delightful to those who have never experienced it”
There is one problem with your plan: none of these countries have the desire to do this.
If they don’t, there’s a high risk that Putin will actually nuke Kyiv. After all, what’s stopping him now?
Trump may not be a Russian asset, but he’s doing everything a Russian asset would do.
Krasnov!