Il gigante della difesa tedesca Rheinmetall ha appena rivelato nuovi filmati del suo Skyranger 35, una torretta AAA da 35 mm altamente capace montata su un telaio Leopard 1. Si prevede che l’Ucraina riceverà una serie di queste unità, con una significativa interoperabilità con la flotta Leoparda 1A5 del paese.
Those patriots will run out and are quite expensive and this system would be great to at least save some patriots.
The system was announced in mid 2024 and still haben heard of it being deployed… Rheinmetall vaporware ?
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Great news
DasSmach on
This is *very* interesting
This turns the fleet of 200 Leopard 1s into a potential fleet of 200 SPAAGs… as soon as the Skyranger Turrets arrive. Considering that drones are one the biggest threats to tanks and armored vehicles, such a fleet would maybe makes armored assaults viable again, even without air superiority
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The gun…an SWIZZ Oerlikon 35. What about ammunition? Still an issue due to the SwiZZ-RuZZian connection? Never trust a traitor country…
fdykn on
Ukraine should demount all the old Leo1 turrets an replace them with this.
WirusCZ on
Hope it’s actually cheap and the can make lots of them but by knowing it’s German it’s probably gonna still be very expensive even if they put it on old leo chassis and they probably gonna make like 5 of them in one year…. But I hope I’m wrong
Sp4ni4l on
Only a very limited amount need a tracked vehicle. A truck would be just as good in de majority of the cases. But still: impressive
w0lfm0nk on
Give it to Ukraine as soon as possible. It will literally save lives
aberroco on
It uses shrapnel shells? I mean, ones that explode after certain programmable time.
Smooth_Imagination on
It’s logical that we go back to AA guns and the Gerrard has proved it’s even more relevant than when it was made.
But for me the key solution we are lacking is this capability to be shrunk and light enough to add to existing tanks and other military vehicles and bunkers.
The Challenger 3 is comming with the Rafael Trophy solution but weighs nearly a ton. Although useful against other threats, drone defenses due to the nature of drones need to be spread out, numerous and therefore light.
Gepard has a twin 35mm canon that’s overkill for most of these threats, but useful for higher altitude targets and providing area cover.
So the missing part is portable local protection, a system with turret weighing well under 0.5T that can be added to most vehicles and maybe 1 to 2km effective range.
Firing individual rounds rather than bursts also cuts mass and reduces cost. In interviews with Leopard 2 commanders in Ukraine, they get over a dozen strikes from drones each, per mission.
So they all need these defenses.
Gepard guns could be updated to be lighter, such as using carbon wound barrels and other lightweight materials, electromechanical stabilisation, and perhaps programmed rounds along with penetrative rounds that it can switch between. Glide bombs have strong steel casings so knocking them out requires FSDS penetrator rounds.
Accuracy is improved by round velocity. Going up to and using discarding sabot allows very fast rounds, and these can be also be programmed to release tungsten penetrator rods or beads as this system uses.
The goal should be to get one shot one kill, so kill rates above 70% per shot. A fire control system only fires when the calculated aim is over the target. It’s basically a sniper rifle with gyro stabilisation.
Then I think the system still needs a line backer system, a more basic short range shot gun to clear anything that still sneaks through. Again the emphasis has to be on weight reduction so they can be added to existing vehicles.
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Ich bin uber gay for Rheinmetall
Readman31 on
*slaps hood* You can fit so many Skyrangers on this baby
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Cheap and accurate RuZ drone destroyer.
If only they could do the same for RuZ missiles.
The question is when ????
Those patriots will run out and are quite expensive and this system would be great to at least save some patriots.
The system was announced in mid 2024 and still haben heard of it being deployed… Rheinmetall vaporware ?
Great news
This is *very* interesting
This turns the fleet of 200 Leopard 1s into a potential fleet of 200 SPAAGs… as soon as the Skyranger Turrets arrive. Considering that drones are one the biggest threats to tanks and armored vehicles, such a fleet would maybe makes armored assaults viable again, even without air superiority
The gun…an SWIZZ Oerlikon 35. What about ammunition? Still an issue due to the SwiZZ-RuZZian connection? Never trust a traitor country…
Ukraine should demount all the old Leo1 turrets an replace them with this.
Hope it’s actually cheap and the can make lots of them but by knowing it’s German it’s probably gonna still be very expensive even if they put it on old leo chassis and they probably gonna make like 5 of them in one year…. But I hope I’m wrong
Only a very limited amount need a tracked vehicle. A truck would be just as good in de majority of the cases. But still: impressive
Give it to Ukraine as soon as possible. It will literally save lives
It uses shrapnel shells? I mean, ones that explode after certain programmable time.
It’s logical that we go back to AA guns and the Gerrard has proved it’s even more relevant than when it was made.
But for me the key solution we are lacking is this capability to be shrunk and light enough to add to existing tanks and other military vehicles and bunkers.
The Challenger 3 is comming with the Rafael Trophy solution but weighs nearly a ton. Although useful against other threats, drone defenses due to the nature of drones need to be spread out, numerous and therefore light.
Gepard has a twin 35mm canon that’s overkill for most of these threats, but useful for higher altitude targets and providing area cover.
So the missing part is portable local protection, a system with turret weighing well under 0.5T that can be added to most vehicles and maybe 1 to 2km effective range.
Firing individual rounds rather than bursts also cuts mass and reduces cost. In interviews with Leopard 2 commanders in Ukraine, they get over a dozen strikes from drones each, per mission.
So they all need these defenses.
Gepard guns could be updated to be lighter, such as using carbon wound barrels and other lightweight materials, electromechanical stabilisation, and perhaps programmed rounds along with penetrative rounds that it can switch between. Glide bombs have strong steel casings so knocking them out requires FSDS penetrator rounds.
Accuracy is improved by round velocity. Going up to and using discarding sabot allows very fast rounds, and these can be also be programmed to release tungsten penetrator rods or beads as this system uses.
The goal should be to get one shot one kill, so kill rates above 70% per shot. A fire control system only fires when the calculated aim is over the target. It’s basically a sniper rifle with gyro stabilisation.
Then I think the system still needs a line backer system, a more basic short range shot gun to clear anything that still sneaks through. Again the emphasis has to be on weight reduction so they can be added to existing vehicles.
Ich bin uber gay for Rheinmetall
*slaps hood* You can fit so many Skyrangers on this baby