
I conducenti degli studenti devono essere ricominciati se hanno più di quattro permessi senza superare un test
https://www.irishtimes.com/transport/2025/03/09/learner-drivers-face-having-to-start-again-if-they-have-more-than-four-permits-without-passing-a-test/
di WhitePowerRangerBill
13 commenti
Sort out the waiting times and then make the change.
If you cant pass your test, after 8 years of lessons and testing, you are clearly not meant to drive.
What problem does this solve exactly?
If they passed the theory then they passed. The issue is with their actual driving.
So maybe force them to retake the 12 lessons again if they failed more than five times. Makes more sense then creating more backlog for the theory test.
Additionally, they should reduce the pressure on the driving test by hiring more testers. That way, people who failed can retake the test within a week or month, instead of a full fucking year.
I passed on my first try, but I had to wait 18 months for my appointment. Tallaght and Deansgrenge test centers can’t cope.
I will 100% drive illegaly for the rest of my life if they try to make it that expensive and time consuming. And if any testers from Wilton see this, FUCK YOU :-*
Four times is about two times too many.
Surely this just causes more of a back log. Why not open more test centres and open on weekends, no renewal of license without sitting a test unless medical reason. As some people have learners permit and are not actually driving. Don’t understand the theory test part it’s not necessary to repeat that.
How will this sort anything?
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I think if you fail the test twice then there should be some requirement to either do more EDT and/or do another theory test to get the license back. Like people try and speed run the tests but if you are taking the test more than 2 times then there should be a question of fitness to be on the road at that point. Having 4 renewals without challenge though sounds insane, I could get that it takes time for the EDT and scheduling the test but you are talking 2 years per permit so 4 permits is 8 years, if you haven’t gotten it by then then I’d say you clearly aren’t getting it and I’d say you might be a danger on the road.
Nothing about this will improve road safety, it will only cause more stress and anxiety around driving and of course, take more money out of people’s pockets.
There has to be a serious review into the testing process as a whole, it’s way too subjective, plus a 30 minute drive does not reveal anything about how someone will drive.
Fatal crashes are being caused by speeding, distracted driving and driving under the influence – put time and energy into solving those, not learners cutting out on a hill start.
There’s a man I know who has been driving about 15 years without passing the driving test. Cancels the test after renewal of the learner permit. Clear danger on the road and signals left when he’s turning right. Should never have been allowed behind the wheel.
Stupid.
Learner drivers can only drive accompanied anyway.
If that’s unsafe, then why is it allowed at all?
If that’s fine, then why have a cap on how long the learner’s permit lasts?
If there’s an issue of people driving unaccompanied on a learner’s permit, they’ll break the law and drive without a learner’s permit.
These things unfairly punish people who are financially disadvantaged and/or socially disadvantaged. Not everyone will have access to an adult who will sit with them after every lesson to practice what they’re taught and every time they need to go somewhere. They also mightn’t have access to a car, insurance etc. in the interim. So these young adults and teens are left in limbo where they have to use the awful, unreliable public transport to go to uni, work, wherever and there’s a huge gap between their 12th lesson and whenever their test may be (last I read, it was a 50 week wait on average?). Each pretest lesson on average costs €55 too. All these factors affect their chances of being able to show up adequately prepared for the driving test, and having to do multiple attempts to pass.
I was extremely privileged with a parent who paid for my lessons, tests and first car, and so it only took me 2 tries to pass. That isn’t the reality for a lot of people.
If you can’t pass the test after 4 years just stick to the bus let alone 8 ffs. Good change but not far enough imo