L’Europa ha le risorse per difendersi e sostenere l’Ucraina contro la Russia
Europe has the resources to defend itself and back Ukraine against Russia
di Loki9101
L’Europa ha le risorse per difendersi e sostenere l’Ucraina contro la Russia
Europe has the resources to defend itself and back Ukraine against Russia
di Loki9101
17 commenti
Fun fact: they had, for all these years.
They just don’t want to allocate these resources.
Maybe something would change (though i doubt it, sadly)
They have the resources, but do they want to invest them in defense? Most of politicians only care about being elected next time
Europe faces pressing challenges in enhancing its defense stance against Russia, necessitating substantial increases in military resources. Estimates indicate that an annual increase of at least €250 billion in defense spending is required, alongside the deployment of an additional 300,000 troops to effectively deter Russian aggression (Bruegel). This situation underscores the heightened military capabilities of Russia and emphasizes the urgent need for European countries to strengthen their defense infrastructures—especially highlighted by the potential reduction or absence of U.S. support.
* [Defending Europe without the US: first estimates of what is needed](https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/defending-europe-without-us-first-estimates-what-needed)
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On no account should Ukraine agree to Trump’s request of conceding territories and changing leadership during wartime, because that’s exactly what Putin wants to destroy Ukraine’s ability and will to fight on.
Ukraine should consult with its European partners closely before agreeing to any terms propsed by evil and sly US delegates sent by disgusting and wicked Trump.
Then do it already FFS.
If you put all the armies together overnight you will have 1.5 million fighting men, some of them the most advanced the globe has to offer. That’s excluding the UK I think.
Take Benelux and Germany together and you already have a bigger population. Even without Germany you have a bigger economy.
Why do we let ourselves be scared, threatened and dictated by this rusty backyard of civilization trying to claim some long gone superpower status
The situation is bad in Kursk.
The problem isn’t one of resources.
It’s of political will, petty nationalistic priorities and an inability to centralize.
I am sorry,I will probably will be set away as idiot..but are we not in war? On both sides now? Russia and usa. Can we please help ukraine now with troops. Kick the eastern f* back. And the western one is still nato. So cannot intervene yet.
Of course we have the resources. The economy of the Benelux alone equals that of Russia. The two main challenges are that:
1) russia has invested much more in its armed forces for a long time (obviously at the cost of many of the things we value here, such as good healthcare, infrastructure, housing, basically everything else…).
2) in a democracy, it’s much harder to strengthen defense because we need to motivate people and most people are focused on their individual wellbeing. In a dictatorship like russia, the regime doesn’t need to motivate much. They just decide and send people to the front.
Population US: 350 million.
Population EU (excluding UK, Norway, Ukraine): 450 million.
Not only are we with more but our economy is very healthy compared to the US. And they managed to piss off and unite the Germans, French, British and the Vikings all at once…
‘Whomst have awakened the ancient one’.
Europe has many smaller resources with many different heads. Bring all these small ones together under one head, be it economic or defense, and suddenly we become one might block.
Why would we? It costs us only money and at the end we will lose ukraine. The us is going to get the minerals and we the debt..
Its better to strike a deal with Russia and end the war. Secure the rest of ukraine and have back good relationships with Russia. ukraine is as far as i know, not a member of the EU.
Atlanticist propaganda unironically getting upvoted while every other thread is US bashing, this place is a joke
Yet the people can’t afford constantly rising foodprices. Here’s to hoping all this funding comes from the pockets of the wealthy and overpaid polititians. Surely it will right? Right..?
I like the firm position of Europe, but it’s concerning that entire Europe with big effort can produce 30 tanks a year. Actually two countries together, Germany and Greece.
Slava Ukraine!