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    1. Snowbound-IX on

      Since Trump took office, the US is not a reliable partner anymore. We URGENTLY need to build our own services and enhance those that already exist.

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    2. The end goal should be an outright ban across the EU on buying American equipment.ย 

    3. uulluull on

      Again, the same thing. Europe is able to launch an arms industry, but currently, the delivery dates for equipment are at least 5+ years and with our best will, to shorten it to less than 5 years will be impossible probably. Simply, Europe has slept through a lot, and certainly the last three years of the war in Ukraine and now the arm industry reconstruction will take time.

      So I will ask, how is the eastern flank supposed to arm itself with, because it cannot wait for 5+ years? With what? (For now Lithuania have to wait to 2035 for Leopard tanks).

      So one is theory when it comes to loans, and another is facing the fact that loans granted in this way to the eastern flank will have little effectiveness, and this is exactly the area that we need urgent and the largest funding at the moment.

      We in Europe like to “have good ideas” and “right”, and then stir the tea with a spoon, waiting for it to magically become sweeter.

      Additionally, it is not everything about USA, but other suppliers which may provide arms.

    4. DrKaasBaas on

      Even though 150 billion is peanuts, still good to see it will be invested in Europe.

    5. Cultural-Prompt3949 on

      Sounds very sensible, keep the money in the EU to support EU jobs. I say this as a Brit.

    6. SisterOfBattIe on

      That backfired on Trump pretty spectacularly. USA is a big weapon exporter, and it fuels their military industrial complex.

    7. Normal-Stick6437 on

      Europe products or EU products because we Bosnians can offer fine assortment of true and tested ordnance.

    8. Xibalba_Ogme on

      Von Der Leyen agreeing with a French proposition

      I’ve seen everything

      I can die happy

    9. TwoBricksShort on

      Loosing some defense contracts is fine to most Americans if the EU members of NATO actually start contributing larger amounts to the defense of Europe.

      The US wants Europe to spend more even if they are only buying internally.

    10. Purple_Feature1861 on

      So does this mean France got what they wanted and non EU countries that are still European, UK and Norway wonโ€™t be part of this? Or not?ย 

    11. Anything that can be bricked by the seller either remotely or through refusal to trade replacement parts should not be bought anywhere. and with the current situation definitely not from the US or Russia.

    12. caramelsock on

      Surely that should be the absolute least??? We can’t prepare for trouble with the US by paying them and having their stuff which is probably sabotaged. No more deals with traitors and backstabbers.

    13. Jayronheart on

      And isn’t that exactly what makes these European arms, ammunition and whatever better, as well, investing in them — and Europe stronger in general?

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