I legislatori dell’UE ci accusano di “ricattare” Zelenskyy in cessate il fuoco
https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-war-in-ukraine-ceasefire-russia/
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I legislatori dell’UE ci accusano di “ricattare” Zelenskyy in cessate il fuoco
https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-war-in-ukraine-ceasefire-russia/
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Zelyenskyy is a really difficult position and it’s a crime he has not had the EU at his side in negotiations. A permanent ceasefire without a security guarantee is a temporary ceasefire.
That being said. I understand why he’s choosing to offer a ceasefire and the EU had better not let it’s foot off the gas with aid and spending if there is a ceasefire
I’m not even sure a ceasefire will happen because Putin is an erratic asswipe
Put up the money and the equipment then. I am all for supporting Ukraine. All for saying the US is abusing and bullying them. But if money talks and BS walks.
Less statements more 155mm rounds.
Well that’s being polite about it…
I think a ceasefire and peace agreement are a good thing in general. Both parties seem partially delusional, throwing men in the meatgrinder for marginal gains over some insignificant village in Eastern Ukraine. At this rate, the war will continue for several more years without a clear outcome.
It is so entertaining when I am right. All those constant claims of NATO being dead, while I always made the case if we are just willing , we can have our own part inside NATO that serves our special needs. Great to see that the EU sees it likewise.
EU can solve this problem by giving Zelensky what he’s asking for…200,000 troops and lots of long range missiles.
So…why isn’t Europe giving him what he needs?
If Europe provided sufficient aid and security, Zelensky wouldn’t have to deal with Trump at all and instead of the US, Europe would get the Ukraine minerals deal.
So instead of all the symbolic finger wagging, increase aid to Ukraine and take the lead from Trump instead?
Go look at r/conservative sub and look at their responses to this. This is good. The majority of responses are saying that if Putin doesn’t accept the ceasefire, they would support the US sending weapons packages
This ceasefire proposal might be the best thing that can happen to Ukraine. If Putin rejects it, you might just have American conservatives on your side.
If Americans are no longer divided on Ukraine, and republicans are in power, one thing is for sure, they are willing to go much farther against Russia than Biden was.
Sounds about ‘merica to me.
What can Zelenskyy do in his situation? Stand up against 2 allied gangs: Russia & US?
“accuse” as in, maybe they didn’t?
> Signatories to the statement included members of the European Parliament (MEPs) from both sides of the aisle, including the Greens, Socialists & Democrats, liberals, Christian Democrats and the hard right.
When literally everyone across the political spectrum support it one could wish that the republicans would take it as a sign that something is rotten in the states of US.
Is Ukraine shifting Russia off much of that territory? Even if the EU/US are indefinitely sending military aid given no ceasefire?
**NO, Ukraine’s manpower will give out before Russia’s economy does**
Is there a willingness to actively and on a much broader scale cannibalize combined EU military stocks that, as of today, are roughly comparable to those of Russia in terms of numbers except higher quality? That are currently unengaged against Russia while Russia is heavily engaged in Ukraine?
**NO, the tale of EU military inadequacy is a myth. The willpower simply isn’t there.**
Will EU nations actively engage Russian forces to deliver Ukraine victory?
**NO, most EU nations have refused to even participate in peacekeeping in Ukraine. Never-mind going to war with Russia.**
EU nations are sanctimoniously using the US as a scapegoat to cover for their own moral cowardice. They’re just continuing the policy of managing Ukrainian defeat rather than trying to help them actually win. Trump is awful but for all the psychodrama BS he trades in he is more honest about the war than EU nations.
And unless EU nations actually put up or shut up, would Ukraine potentially being given 30 days to develop better defensive entrenchments to strengthen their defensive hand be the worst thing? Russians showed the disproportionate value of defensive lines during UA’s last offensive.
EU nations were never the good guy on this, they just wanted to keep Russia too busy in Ukraine to go after the Baltics. Longer the war goes on, the longer the threat is pushed back. Just a different version of US self-interest.
I would **love** if they would prove me wrong. Maybe Trump needs to say it.
America is showing its true colors; no more pretense.
To the EU, Ukraine is just the first of many. Capitulate to Putin now and he will simply move onto the next state, threatening them all. Trump does not have the capacity to comprehend this and see the big picture.
I love the eu talking crap about us, we’re so horrible, terrible, traitors…. And then they do nothing.
A ceasefire? The Russians are just going to regroup in the meantime to mount a new offensive … that is a classic…
I mean the war is lost of course the losing side doesnt get to dictate conditions
More like bullied into it. If that’s “the art of the deal” to just give another bully whatever they want just to stop the killing, it’s just inviting another killing later. Putin took Krim 2014 and now he took more. You think he will stop? All he would do is just make more weapons to take the rest during a ceasefire and that’s so painfully obvious that he will never stop.
Uhh…maybe just half the US. 49% did not vote for Orange Man. But point taken.
It’s very likely, but it’s not like Europe is in a position to take over from us sadly. The production capacity is just not the same.
Also if Putin says Europe can’t deploy peacekeepers if an actual ceasefire happens will Europe just timidly give in and go “well he said we can’t so we can’t, we can’t risk World War 3”, or will there be a “continue the hostilities if you want a bigger fight” attitude?
It really comes down to if Europe is politically willing to get in the trenches with Ukraine.