The overall popularity of night clubs has fallen, and I think this is the main reason for the decline if clubs.
Business owners have seen that late bars are more popular so shifted in thay direction.
Night clubs were of their time. I wonder will they be looked back on the future like the dance halls of the previous generation.
SeanB2003 on
Tinder and co
BazingaQQ on
Long time since I was clubbing in Fublin, but at the tine I felt they were very formulaic. Same music, same lads trying g to pull, seen one seen empty all
Icy_Zucchini_1138 on
Dating apps, streaming, social media, just better options that hadn’t existed when nightclubs were at their peak around the year 2000
The3rdbaboon on
Archaic licensing laws and a change in socialising habits. But Ireland never had proper nightclubs anyway. You have to go Europe for that.
PinkBeo on
Solicitors and insurance companies
caisdara on
Not as many young people and they have tinder now.
Rollorich on
Drugs are much cheaper and just as easy to get. Drink is prohibitively expensive these days.
Pintau on
Short term, lockdown made everybody especially young people less social. A whole generation missed out on exposure to nightclubs and by the time they were exposed they were old enough to realise it was expensive shite.
Longer term it was always going to die. It was a phenomenon of early 90s edm, with an aesthetic of trainers, trackies and yokes that got gentrified, and became an environment of “proper shoes”, pulling shits, club dresses and coke, only sustained by the memory of what it formerly was among the older part of its clientele. Like everything else that gets completely subsumed by gentrification and commercialism, it lost everything that made it special and repelled anybody who wasnt a lame johnny come lately. It became subsumed by the very thing rave culture had been born as backlash against, 80s yuppies
Dat_name_doe2 on
Covid did a number on a lot of clubs and pubs.
Overall cost of going out has gone from a once a week to once a month to maybe a few times a year. People are less into pulling on nights out when you have a million dating apps which are much easier to talk to people on. Anecdotally I never enjoyed myself in a club, it’s loud as fuck, expensive, jam packed and the people working their treat you like shit. The craic was always in the smoking area as it was the only place you could talk.
ColinRyan on
Insurance and Dublin not being a very nice place to be after 8pm (and some would argue before).
Also heard anecdotes of younger generations not being as drink focused and the cost associated with it.
DeaglanOMulrooney on
I think it’s just generally that people have less money these days and the popularity is declining
MushuFromSpace on
Between COVID and the extortionate prices of entry fees/drinks and the absolute hassle of getting home via Taxi was always going to cause a decline.
People have switched to drinking with friends at home because it’s an absolute rip off for a night out.
Not sure if the horse has truly bolted but changing the licencing laws for a start might help bring some sort of vibe to the city because right now it’s utterly depressing walking through what should be a bustling city.
Irishman4000 on
I for one hated drinking shite red bull and vodkas, having pints that were sitting in the taps Sunday – Thursday and having to listen to Usher in the hope I might pull at some point.. Give me a late opening standard pub with a live band any day.
pauldavis1234 on
Poor mental health and substance abuse don’t mix.
AllezLesPrimrose on
I just want somewhere I can hear the people I’m spending a rake of money to go out with. Nightclubs were always a huge niche and a lot of people going in were tolerating it more than it being their ideal venue to begin with.
AnyAssistance4197 on
You’d be absolutely sick having these discussions all the time.
The government killed Dublin’s club scene. That’s fucking who.
Between extortionate rents, lack of late-night venues, and outdated licensing laws, the entire nightlife infrastructure has been gutted.
They have dragged their heels on changing the licensing laws for two decades now making us the laughing stock of Europe. And totally ignoring their own lengthy Night Time Economy Taskforce.
There was a discussion of the problems facing the arts on The RTE Late Debate this week, utterly stuck in Ed Sheeran land in terms of what culture is permitted.
We are constantly fed a slow drip about how “young people don’t want to go out.”
Young people can’t go out. Cos they’ve no fucking money because it’s been sucked up by creep landlords.
No one every seems to want to talk about how young Irish techno acts like BLK are able to sell out the Three Arena in literally minutes!
Listen, if you want to stay at home and just go into town for a few fucking Heinomites with the rugby, feel free – but for fuck sake, change the laws and let the rest of us live.
They are literally propping up and herding all social life into the failing pub industry as a matter of political and social policy with shit like the 1935 Public Dancehalls Act still on the statute books.
It quite literally probably violates fundamental rights under EU law—potentially under the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, which protects cultural expression and freedom of assembly.
cedardesk on
Dublin’s club scene isn’t what it once was but having Big Romance, Bow Lane, Cellar, Centre Point, Fidelity, Grand Social, Hand Dai, Hen’s Teeth, Index, Pawn Shop, Pygmalion, Racket Space, Silo*, Sound House, Tengu, Wigwam and the 3Arena, along with some quality bookers who have their finger on the pulse, it’s not the worst…
nucleararsehole on
Insurance costs and claim culture is another nail in the coffin too.
Loose_Mode_5369 on
Any business premised on making all its money within a ~3 hour window a few nights a week was never particularly secure. Especially something as non-essential as clubs. Bound to be first on the chopping block with rising cost of living
LimerickJim on
Not enough people are talking about the influence of tinder. Meeting a potential romantic partner isn’t the only motivation to go out but it’s one of the big ones. It’s easier to meet someone through the apps than a night club.
AnyAssistance4197 on
Not all people want to go to clubs. Least not proper ones. But there is a sizeable enough amount of people that do, and that cultural form and venues of that nature should be facilitated as everything goes in swings and roundabouts – and who knows, maybe in five years once society shakes its pandemic heebie jeebies maybe people will want to party and dance again en masse.
Also, we need to stop repeating random shite about the habits of young people that are uttterly devoid of examining the material conditions within which they live. Research in the UK shows that the cost of living crisis has had a major impact on people’s habits.
For me this is reflected in people saving their pennies for trips abroad to go clubbing or going to big festivals. These offer more bang for your buck but have a knock on detrimental impact on the local grassroots club scene and diminishing spaces for new talent to flourish.
Like I can’t understand how so many dull radio commentators get away with all this crap about the habits of young people and how they “stay in more” – have they any idea of the absolute alienation and despair that is being holed up in all these childhood box rooms a whole generation are forced to live in? Never mind all the damn screen damaged brains out there. This is a huge societal crisis.
This is about more than clubs tho, anyone who visits any continental European country and sees a public plaza in full swing, will immediately know that what is happening in Ireland is a criminal deprivation of social spaces being imposed on its people. We are a society with very limited third spaces – if you’re not into the GAA or sports, g’luck to you.
It’s not one thing. It’s partly the aforementioned late bars, price of everything incl drink, younger set not that interested in booze, noise, objections, lack of late night transport, crap licensing hours, and let’s be honest, a crap product (Irish nightclubs were rarely very good)
Apps, not sure. They’re as rubbish as clubs to meet people with.
Covid just tipped the balance, the scene had been tottering for years.
Hopeful_Gur9537 on
The cost of a night out has gone through the roof the last few years IMO
Professional-Top4397 on
Insurance is by far the biggest reason.
Upper_Armadillo1644 on
Students like clubs, students can’t afford to club.
_musesan_ on
Early closing, expensive, shit music, online dating, coke now instead of bangers
mrlinkwii on
the “youth”mainlyy , younger people are less likely to drink
NakedMoss on
Im a student, I would have liked to go to clubs but when so many are charging for entry and then absolutely ripping you off for a drink inside, it’s so much easier to just buy cans and have friends over
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The overall popularity of night clubs has fallen, and I think this is the main reason for the decline if clubs.
Business owners have seen that late bars are more popular so shifted in thay direction.
Night clubs were of their time. I wonder will they be looked back on the future like the dance halls of the previous generation.
Tinder and co
Long time since I was clubbing in Fublin, but at the tine I felt they were very formulaic. Same music, same lads trying g to pull, seen one seen empty all
Dating apps, streaming, social media, just better options that hadn’t existed when nightclubs were at their peak around the year 2000
Archaic licensing laws and a change in socialising habits. But Ireland never had proper nightclubs anyway. You have to go Europe for that.
Solicitors and insurance companies
Not as many young people and they have tinder now.
Drugs are much cheaper and just as easy to get. Drink is prohibitively expensive these days.
Short term, lockdown made everybody especially young people less social. A whole generation missed out on exposure to nightclubs and by the time they were exposed they were old enough to realise it was expensive shite.
Longer term it was always going to die. It was a phenomenon of early 90s edm, with an aesthetic of trainers, trackies and yokes that got gentrified, and became an environment of “proper shoes”, pulling shits, club dresses and coke, only sustained by the memory of what it formerly was among the older part of its clientele. Like everything else that gets completely subsumed by gentrification and commercialism, it lost everything that made it special and repelled anybody who wasnt a lame johnny come lately. It became subsumed by the very thing rave culture had been born as backlash against, 80s yuppies
Covid did a number on a lot of clubs and pubs.
Overall cost of going out has gone from a once a week to once a month to maybe a few times a year. People are less into pulling on nights out when you have a million dating apps which are much easier to talk to people on. Anecdotally I never enjoyed myself in a club, it’s loud as fuck, expensive, jam packed and the people working their treat you like shit. The craic was always in the smoking area as it was the only place you could talk.
Insurance and Dublin not being a very nice place to be after 8pm (and some would argue before).
Also heard anecdotes of younger generations not being as drink focused and the cost associated with it.
I think it’s just generally that people have less money these days and the popularity is declining
Between COVID and the extortionate prices of entry fees/drinks and the absolute hassle of getting home via Taxi was always going to cause a decline.
People have switched to drinking with friends at home because it’s an absolute rip off for a night out.
Not sure if the horse has truly bolted but changing the licencing laws for a start might help bring some sort of vibe to the city because right now it’s utterly depressing walking through what should be a bustling city.
I for one hated drinking shite red bull and vodkas, having pints that were sitting in the taps Sunday – Thursday and having to listen to Usher in the hope I might pull at some point.. Give me a late opening standard pub with a live band any day.
Poor mental health and substance abuse don’t mix.
I just want somewhere I can hear the people I’m spending a rake of money to go out with. Nightclubs were always a huge niche and a lot of people going in were tolerating it more than it being their ideal venue to begin with.
You’d be absolutely sick having these discussions all the time.
The government killed Dublin’s club scene. That’s fucking who.
Between extortionate rents, lack of late-night venues, and outdated licensing laws, the entire nightlife infrastructure has been gutted.
They have dragged their heels on changing the licensing laws for two decades now making us the laughing stock of Europe. And totally ignoring their own lengthy Night Time Economy Taskforce.
There was a discussion of the problems facing the arts on The RTE Late Debate this week, utterly stuck in Ed Sheeran land in terms of what culture is permitted.
We are constantly fed a slow drip about how “young people don’t want to go out.”
Young people can’t go out. Cos they’ve no fucking money because it’s been sucked up by creep landlords.
No one every seems to want to talk about how young Irish techno acts like BLK are able to sell out the Three Arena in literally minutes!
Listen, if you want to stay at home and just go into town for a few fucking Heinomites with the rugby, feel free – but for fuck sake, change the laws and let the rest of us live.
They are literally propping up and herding all social life into the failing pub industry as a matter of political and social policy with shit like the 1935 Public Dancehalls Act still on the statute books.
It quite literally probably violates fundamental rights under EU law—potentially under the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, which protects cultural expression and freedom of assembly.
Dublin’s club scene isn’t what it once was but having Big Romance, Bow Lane, Cellar, Centre Point, Fidelity, Grand Social, Hand Dai, Hen’s Teeth, Index, Pawn Shop, Pygmalion, Racket Space, Silo*, Sound House, Tengu, Wigwam and the 3Arena, along with some quality bookers who have their finger on the pulse, it’s not the worst…
Insurance costs and claim culture is another nail in the coffin too.
Any business premised on making all its money within a ~3 hour window a few nights a week was never particularly secure. Especially something as non-essential as clubs. Bound to be first on the chopping block with rising cost of living
Not enough people are talking about the influence of tinder. Meeting a potential romantic partner isn’t the only motivation to go out but it’s one of the big ones. It’s easier to meet someone through the apps than a night club.
Not all people want to go to clubs. Least not proper ones. But there is a sizeable enough amount of people that do, and that cultural form and venues of that nature should be facilitated as everything goes in swings and roundabouts – and who knows, maybe in five years once society shakes its pandemic heebie jeebies maybe people will want to party and dance again en masse.
Also, we need to stop repeating random shite about the habits of young people that are uttterly devoid of examining the material conditions within which they live. Research in the UK shows that the cost of living crisis has had a major impact on people’s habits.
For me this is reflected in people saving their pennies for trips abroad to go clubbing or going to big festivals. These offer more bang for your buck but have a knock on detrimental impact on the local grassroots club scene and diminishing spaces for new talent to flourish.
Like I can’t understand how so many dull radio commentators get away with all this crap about the habits of young people and how they “stay in more” – have they any idea of the absolute alienation and despair that is being holed up in all these childhood box rooms a whole generation are forced to live in? Never mind all the damn screen damaged brains out there. This is a huge societal crisis.
This is about more than clubs tho, anyone who visits any continental European country and sees a public plaza in full swing, will immediately know that what is happening in Ireland is a criminal deprivation of social spaces being imposed on its people. We are a society with very limited third spaces – if you’re not into the GAA or sports, g’luck to you.
[https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/66137/1/young-people-are-being-priced-out-of-nightlife-study-says](https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/66137/1/young-people-are-being-priced-out-of-nightlife-study-says)
It’s not one thing. It’s partly the aforementioned late bars, price of everything incl drink, younger set not that interested in booze, noise, objections, lack of late night transport, crap licensing hours, and let’s be honest, a crap product (Irish nightclubs were rarely very good)
Apps, not sure. They’re as rubbish as clubs to meet people with.
Covid just tipped the balance, the scene had been tottering for years.
The cost of a night out has gone through the roof the last few years IMO
Insurance is by far the biggest reason.
Students like clubs, students can’t afford to club.
Early closing, expensive, shit music, online dating, coke now instead of bangers
the “youth”mainlyy , younger people are less likely to drink
Im a student, I would have liked to go to clubs but when so many are charging for entry and then absolutely ripping you off for a drink inside, it’s so much easier to just buy cans and have friends over