It’s hard to see an Irish government having the courage or endeavour to deliver much of it
BenderRodriguez14 on
Think of how long the line would be from Dublin Airport to Dublin city centre on that map, remember that it has been 23 years with essentially zero progress and that it probably won’t be done in the next 20 either, and you have your answer.
Not within any of our lifetimes, even probably if you’re a teenager.
HighDeltaVee on
The All Island Rail *Review* has already happened.
What is happening now is the concrete planning, applications and work for the dozens of individual projects which make it up the output of the review process.
Some of them have already started work, lots of them are in planning.
MeinhofBaader on
You can tell it won’t happen because it shows infrastructure spending in Donegal.
Terrible_Way1091 on
Have we considered building straighter tracks rather than all these bendy ones
Bill_Badbody on
The review or the recommendations?
The review has occurred.
The recommendations? Nothing is ever guaranteed. But the foynes line is already under construction.
HugoZHackenbush2 on
They have a map of it, so they seem to be on the right track..
mugsymugsymugsy on
Ah yes I always wanted to go from cavan to Dublin via Mullingar.
Honestly the population in cavan/ lack of population density isn’t worth putting rail infrastructure in unless it is driverless trains and it’s dirt cheap to put in.
1stltwill on
A pipe dream.
UrbanStray on
I can’t see Mullingar to Portadown happening. The other connections might have some chance as they’re using a preserved alignment and it’s been done before.
yabog8 on
Few things in life are guaranteed to happen
mccabe-99 on
Just the two finger salute to Fermanagh either way
JourneyThiefer on
Well we’ve spent almost 20 years now here in the north trying to get the A5 road built through Tyrone, so I doubt there’s gonna be any trains through here for decades either, so that’s Donegal out of the question then too
Fichi15 on
A line within Sligo-galway and Sligo-letterkenny would be great
wait_4_a_minute on
Amazing how there’s no direct train or motorway between the countries second and third largest cities – Cork and Limerick.
whooo_me on
Depressing how unambitious even this is.
From a Cork perspective – look how terrible the links are with Killarney, Limerick and Waterford, the nearest population centres. And no new routes in the largest, ‘richest’ (GDP per capita) and 2nd most populous county.
The North West and South West are two of the most popular tourist destinations, but are horribly poorly served by rail. The typical figures bandied about about necessary populations can’t be compared like-for-like with the East/midlands.. in the East rail is competing with bus or car; in the NW and SW the train is competing against not making the journey at all as it’s too far. It’d be a game-changer for those areas.
pauldavis1234 on
45 million train journeys last year.
Approximately 125,000 Journeys each day.
Say trains are running from 7 in the morning till 9 in the evening. 14 hours a day.
That equates to 8,800 people on a train at any hour of day.
Each Tesla Robovan holds 20 people.
That means you need 440 Robovans to carry 8,800 people
They say each Robovan costs 75 K euro.
That means you can replicate the entire Capacity of the Irish rail network for 33 million euro.
Also, they can aggregate the final destination of the people on board and drop them off at a place more convenient than the train station.
Granted they will have to use the existing road network but that will become much less congested once people start using this service as one robovan will replace 20 cars.
awood20 on
The thing to look at is the timelines. The Derry to Portadown line is a long way off. The Derry to Letterkenny section, again, a long way off. The timelines are such that I can see future governments reneging on the complete plan.
123iambill on
In 10 years for €1billion.
Sorry I mean 15 for €2.5 billion.
Shit just checked, it will be shortly before the heat death of the universe and it’ll cost the first born child of every family
Jester-252 on
Another day and another reminder how ridiculous disconnected Ireland 2nd largest city is from infastructure.
Crunchy-Leaf on

Buglim1 on
The Foynes Limerick section is being worked on at present
TheAviator27 on
Definitely not a guarantee. It’ll need about at least 10 years of consistent political will behind it.
HangoverFear on
A train line to Shannon airport is a no brainer. Should have happened years ago. 6 or 7km of track would do it
bun-Mulberry-2493 on
Deffo happening, after the Galway ring road.
the_sneaky_one123 on
No
FlukyS on
It is phased from what I understand, the first phase of improvements was already put in motion but there was one rejection from ABP which was for the new depot because it was on a flood plain or something. I think stuff like the airport one is suggested but not approved yet because it would be expensive and their suggestion for it was that it would be both the metro and the train not either or. Also another key one was some of the improvements have already been done like the new switching centre was opened last year if I remember right.
boyga01 on
Cities joined together with going through Dublin? What kind of madness is this.
RubberRefillPad on
Lol no
genericusername5763 on
As someone who strongly believes in public transport…and just kind of likes trains…
This is a bad plan and it won’t happen.
It won’t happen both because we have to many obstacles to building anything, and just because it’s a bad plan – it proposes opening old alignemnts that were closed 70+ years ago but have since been sold off, built on, turned into roads etc.
Even if the alignments were available they’re not suitable for a modern network and aren’t built where you’d want them to suit current or future needs
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It’s hard to see an Irish government having the courage or endeavour to deliver much of it
Think of how long the line would be from Dublin Airport to Dublin city centre on that map, remember that it has been 23 years with essentially zero progress and that it probably won’t be done in the next 20 either, and you have your answer.
Not within any of our lifetimes, even probably if you’re a teenager.
The All Island Rail *Review* has already happened.
What is happening now is the concrete planning, applications and work for the dozens of individual projects which make it up the output of the review process.
Some of them have already started work, lots of them are in planning.
You can tell it won’t happen because it shows infrastructure spending in Donegal.
Have we considered building straighter tracks rather than all these bendy ones
The review or the recommendations?
The review has occurred.
The recommendations? Nothing is ever guaranteed. But the foynes line is already under construction.
They have a map of it, so they seem to be on the right track..
Ah yes I always wanted to go from cavan to Dublin via Mullingar.
Honestly the population in cavan/ lack of population density isn’t worth putting rail infrastructure in unless it is driverless trains and it’s dirt cheap to put in.
A pipe dream.
I can’t see Mullingar to Portadown happening. The other connections might have some chance as they’re using a preserved alignment and it’s been done before.
Few things in life are guaranteed to happen
Just the two finger salute to Fermanagh either way
Well we’ve spent almost 20 years now here in the north trying to get the A5 road built through Tyrone, so I doubt there’s gonna be any trains through here for decades either, so that’s Donegal out of the question then too
A line within Sligo-galway and Sligo-letterkenny would be great
Amazing how there’s no direct train or motorway between the countries second and third largest cities – Cork and Limerick.
Depressing how unambitious even this is.
From a Cork perspective – look how terrible the links are with Killarney, Limerick and Waterford, the nearest population centres. And no new routes in the largest, ‘richest’ (GDP per capita) and 2nd most populous county.
The North West and South West are two of the most popular tourist destinations, but are horribly poorly served by rail. The typical figures bandied about about necessary populations can’t be compared like-for-like with the East/midlands.. in the East rail is competing with bus or car; in the NW and SW the train is competing against not making the journey at all as it’s too far. It’d be a game-changer for those areas.
45 million train journeys last year.
Approximately 125,000 Journeys each day.
Say trains are running from 7 in the morning till 9 in the evening. 14 hours a day.
That equates to 8,800 people on a train at any hour of day.
Each Tesla Robovan holds 20 people.
That means you need 440 Robovans to carry 8,800 people
They say each Robovan costs 75 K euro.
That means you can replicate the entire Capacity of the Irish rail network for 33 million euro.
Also, they can aggregate the final destination of the people on board and drop them off at a place more convenient than the train station.
Granted they will have to use the existing road network but that will become much less congested once people start using this service as one robovan will replace 20 cars.
The thing to look at is the timelines. The Derry to Portadown line is a long way off. The Derry to Letterkenny section, again, a long way off. The timelines are such that I can see future governments reneging on the complete plan.
In 10 years for €1billion.
Sorry I mean 15 for €2.5 billion.
Shit just checked, it will be shortly before the heat death of the universe and it’ll cost the first born child of every family
Another day and another reminder how ridiculous disconnected Ireland 2nd largest city is from infastructure.

The Foynes Limerick section is being worked on at present
Definitely not a guarantee. It’ll need about at least 10 years of consistent political will behind it.
A train line to Shannon airport is a no brainer. Should have happened years ago. 6 or 7km of track would do it
Deffo happening, after the Galway ring road.
No
It is phased from what I understand, the first phase of improvements was already put in motion but there was one rejection from ABP which was for the new depot because it was on a flood plain or something. I think stuff like the airport one is suggested but not approved yet because it would be expensive and their suggestion for it was that it would be both the metro and the train not either or. Also another key one was some of the improvements have already been done like the new switching centre was opened last year if I remember right.
Cities joined together with going through Dublin? What kind of madness is this.
Lol no
As someone who strongly believes in public transport…and just kind of likes trains…
This is a bad plan and it won’t happen.
It won’t happen both because we have to many obstacles to building anything, and just because it’s a bad plan – it proposes opening old alignemnts that were closed 70+ years ago but have since been sold off, built on, turned into roads etc.
Even if the alignments were available they’re not suitable for a modern network and aren’t built where you’d want them to suit current or future needs
We will be lucky if half of this gets done.