> The European Commission is seeking to set up collective arms purchasing for the entire bloc, in what would represent a significant transfer of power to Brussels.
> Ursula von der Leyen, head of the EU’s executive, said on Tuesday that the bloc would set up a “European Military Sales Mechanism” — a strategic reserve of European weaponry that capitals could purchase from to refill their own inventories.
> The initiative is part of the continent’s rearmament drive and aims to provide additional orders for arms manufacturers which have struggled to scale up production despite Russia’s war in Ukraine. France and Germany have also announced more investment in their domestic weapons industries.
> “We must buy more European [weapons],” von der Leyen said in a speech in Copenhagen. “That means creating an EU-wide market for defence equipment.”
> US President Donald Trump’s threats to withdraw protection to Nato allies and his bilateral peace negotiations with Moscow have spooked European capitals and promoted a rush to increase the continent’s domestic defence capabilities.
> On Tuesday, the German parliament approved plans to inject up to €1tn into the country’s military and infrastructure — in a landmark decision spearheaded by the country’s chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz.
> Economists have estimated that Germany’s armed forces need more than €400bn in coming years, funding that is likely to be unleashed by Merz’s reform, which will also loosen the country’s strict borrowing rules.
> French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday announced additional military spending, including more government orders for Rafale fighter jets and a €1.5bn investment in an air base which will become part of the nuclear deterrent by 2035, when it will host new versions of the aircraft equipped with hypersonic atomic missiles.
> Von der Leyen said EU countries “need to be able to fully rely on European defence supply chains, especially in times of urgent need. And a European market would deliver that.”
> Giving Brussels such powers would mark a significant transfer of competences from national capitals, which have previously insisted on having the last say on matters of national security. Von der Leyen’s proposal would need to win support from a majority of member states to come to fruition, officials said.
> But EU leaders had already signalled support for joint procurement at a summit earlier this month, said a senior official. Buying weapons together would enable European armed forces to scale up in “a coherent, standardised, interoperable way”, the official added.
> “Our industrial base still has structural weaknesses. It is not yet able to produce defence systems and equipment in the quantities and speed that member states need,” von der Leyen said. “We need to turn the tide. It starts with investment in Europe.”
> The remarks come a day ahead of the release of a defence strategy drafted by the commission that is set to propose that the commission act as a centralised buyer of military equipment.”
Stabile_Feldmaus on
LFG!🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Since we have to replace American troops, it would make sense to create a European defense force which consists of newly recruited troops and is completely separate from national armies (which stay untouched).
The only purpose of the EDF would be to be prepared for a Russian attack. For example they can be permanently stationed at the borders of Poland, Baltics, Finland etc.
For this inherently European army it would ofc make sense to procure weapons on the European level.
“EU made simple” made a good video about this recently
Yeah this is the kinda shit that needs to happen really. European procurement is badly inefficient, something along these lines would help significantly in ameliorating the problem (though it probably can’t be fully fixed)
HighDeltaVee on
>in what would represent a significant transfer of power to Brussels.
This is nothing to do with any transfer of power to Brussels.
It’s a set of combined purchases where countries group together to order long-term predictable weapons purchases at scale, leading to scale up of manufacturing and cheaper prices. It’s not transferring any power to Brussels, and the first purchases have already been started last year.
It’s just going to have a *lot* more money behind it this time, due to an agreed loosening of the purse-strings for all EU member states.
LaserCondiment on
I really hope they won’t give Palantir, Anduril and others any defense contracts. These companies would infest EU security like parasites.
uulluull on
I am skeptical about the idea. Weapons purchases are not only purchases, but also, outside the logistics chain, the entire training and operations system, adapted to local conditions. Additionally, countries are in different stages of investment and there is no such thing as common European equipment or equipment model.
Of course, you can buy equipment for storage and maintain it, but the army needs one year to train for slightly more complex equipment, e.g. a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle, and then about three years to turn it into a battalion, not to mention a division. This requires training soldiers on the given equipment.
So the problem is not the purchase itself. Moreover, as I have already written, there is no single type of equipment and theater. The needs in the south of the EU are different, and in the east different.
Let’s add to this the fact that there are countries at different stages of equipment purchase and everything starts to lose coherence. For example, Poland has already bought most of the equipment it wanted in terms of land forces, and the equipment it did not buy has already been launched in advanced programs. Launching any military program takes years, so now, under pressure from Russia, the discussed Poland will not stop and wait until the EU receives the equipment in 2035. So what will be common in this?
If we are talking about common equipment, it can probably be done to that extent if a common equipment standard is guaranteed. For example, in artillery, programmable gun locks are burdened with patents in such a way that each manufacturer has its own and programmable ammunition does not fit this or that howitzer. If this were regulated, it would be possible to have interchangeable ammunition and certain elements of training, even with different technical means. Such a level of harmonization would already make the army interoperable and more common.
In return, we are to have purchases of who knows what, for who knows when, for joint money, across the current individual and training purchase programs. In this situation, it is better in my opinion to give each country a loan or guarantee of it and let it take care of what it needs itself.
However, saying buy European, when Lithuania is supposed to have the ordered Leopard tanks only from 2035 is a joke and a pathetic mistake. Russia will not wait until 2035, so they have to have equipment now, not when it will be, so the equipment will probably not be from the EU. Alternatively, they can risk their independence and existence, but if they do not raise an army to defend themselves, who will want to fight with them, to help them? The requirement to have self-defense capabilities is one of NATO’s requirements and a political requirement to obtain external help.
So what does Brussels want to do?! A program to buy equipment, to boost industry. How can this currently help the Eastern Flank?
Lofi_Joe on
Don’t buy, create.
Coinsworthy on
Yey! Guns!
uniklyqualifd on
Can’t rely on the Americans
RightMindset2 on
Bunch of warmongers in Europe.
Unlucky_Vegetable576 on
Finally! Some integration
HoneyBadger552 on
Do….it -Hector Salamanca
SirGelson on
I support the move, but I can’t stand this woman. Can we use a different photo when talking about EU?
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> The European Commission is seeking to set up collective arms purchasing for the entire bloc, in what would represent a significant transfer of power to Brussels.
> Ursula von der Leyen, head of the EU’s executive, said on Tuesday that the bloc would set up a “European Military Sales Mechanism” — a strategic reserve of European weaponry that capitals could purchase from to refill their own inventories.
> The initiative is part of the continent’s rearmament drive and aims to provide additional orders for arms manufacturers which have struggled to scale up production despite Russia’s war in Ukraine. France and Germany have also announced more investment in their domestic weapons industries.
> “We must buy more European [weapons],” von der Leyen said in a speech in Copenhagen. “That means creating an EU-wide market for defence equipment.”
> US President Donald Trump’s threats to withdraw protection to Nato allies and his bilateral peace negotiations with Moscow have spooked European capitals and promoted a rush to increase the continent’s domestic defence capabilities.
> On Tuesday, the German parliament approved plans to inject up to €1tn into the country’s military and infrastructure — in a landmark decision spearheaded by the country’s chancellor-in-waiting Friedrich Merz.
> Economists have estimated that Germany’s armed forces need more than €400bn in coming years, funding that is likely to be unleashed by Merz’s reform, which will also loosen the country’s strict borrowing rules.
> French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday announced additional military spending, including more government orders for Rafale fighter jets and a €1.5bn investment in an air base which will become part of the nuclear deterrent by 2035, when it will host new versions of the aircraft equipped with hypersonic atomic missiles.
> Von der Leyen said EU countries “need to be able to fully rely on European defence supply chains, especially in times of urgent need. And a European market would deliver that.”
> Giving Brussels such powers would mark a significant transfer of competences from national capitals, which have previously insisted on having the last say on matters of national security. Von der Leyen’s proposal would need to win support from a majority of member states to come to fruition, officials said.
> But EU leaders had already signalled support for joint procurement at a summit earlier this month, said a senior official. Buying weapons together would enable European armed forces to scale up in “a coherent, standardised, interoperable way”, the official added.
> “Our industrial base still has structural weaknesses. It is not yet able to produce defence systems and equipment in the quantities and speed that member states need,” von der Leyen said. “We need to turn the tide. It starts with investment in Europe.”
> The remarks come a day ahead of the release of a defence strategy drafted by the commission that is set to propose that the commission act as a centralised buyer of military equipment.”
LFG!🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Since we have to replace American troops, it would make sense to create a European defense force which consists of newly recruited troops and is completely separate from national armies (which stay untouched).
The only purpose of the EDF would be to be prepared for a Russian attack. For example they can be permanently stationed at the borders of Poland, Baltics, Finland etc.
For this inherently European army it would ofc make sense to procure weapons on the European level.
“EU made simple” made a good video about this recently
https://youtu.be/xLkyey-2Rzc?si=jnyb6IgEA3aa6H_8
Yeah this is the kinda shit that needs to happen really. European procurement is badly inefficient, something along these lines would help significantly in ameliorating the problem (though it probably can’t be fully fixed)
>in what would represent a significant transfer of power to Brussels.
This is nothing to do with any transfer of power to Brussels.
It’s a set of combined purchases where countries group together to order long-term predictable weapons purchases at scale, leading to scale up of manufacturing and cheaper prices. It’s not transferring any power to Brussels, and the first purchases have already been started last year.
It’s just going to have a *lot* more money behind it this time, due to an agreed loosening of the purse-strings for all EU member states.
I really hope they won’t give Palantir, Anduril and others any defense contracts. These companies would infest EU security like parasites.
I am skeptical about the idea. Weapons purchases are not only purchases, but also, outside the logistics chain, the entire training and operations system, adapted to local conditions. Additionally, countries are in different stages of investment and there is no such thing as common European equipment or equipment model.
Of course, you can buy equipment for storage and maintain it, but the army needs one year to train for slightly more complex equipment, e.g. a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle, and then about three years to turn it into a battalion, not to mention a division. This requires training soldiers on the given equipment.
So the problem is not the purchase itself. Moreover, as I have already written, there is no single type of equipment and theater. The needs in the south of the EU are different, and in the east different.
Let’s add to this the fact that there are countries at different stages of equipment purchase and everything starts to lose coherence. For example, Poland has already bought most of the equipment it wanted in terms of land forces, and the equipment it did not buy has already been launched in advanced programs. Launching any military program takes years, so now, under pressure from Russia, the discussed Poland will not stop and wait until the EU receives the equipment in 2035. So what will be common in this?
If we are talking about common equipment, it can probably be done to that extent if a common equipment standard is guaranteed. For example, in artillery, programmable gun locks are burdened with patents in such a way that each manufacturer has its own and programmable ammunition does not fit this or that howitzer. If this were regulated, it would be possible to have interchangeable ammunition and certain elements of training, even with different technical means. Such a level of harmonization would already make the army interoperable and more common.
In return, we are to have purchases of who knows what, for who knows when, for joint money, across the current individual and training purchase programs. In this situation, it is better in my opinion to give each country a loan or guarantee of it and let it take care of what it needs itself.
However, saying buy European, when Lithuania is supposed to have the ordered Leopard tanks only from 2035 is a joke and a pathetic mistake. Russia will not wait until 2035, so they have to have equipment now, not when it will be, so the equipment will probably not be from the EU. Alternatively, they can risk their independence and existence, but if they do not raise an army to defend themselves, who will want to fight with them, to help them? The requirement to have self-defense capabilities is one of NATO’s requirements and a political requirement to obtain external help.
So what does Brussels want to do?! A program to buy equipment, to boost industry. How can this currently help the Eastern Flank?
Don’t buy, create.
Yey! Guns!
Can’t rely on the Americans
Bunch of warmongers in Europe.
Finally! Some integration
Do….it -Hector Salamanca
I support the move, but I can’t stand this woman. Can we use a different photo when talking about EU?