Più ricco o più povero di quanto non siano in realtà: come si percepiscono gli europei
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di duaneap
Più ricco o più povero di quanto non siano in realtà: come si percepiscono gli europei
https://i.redd.it/g4ck72cx2mqe1.png
di duaneap
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If it done VIA GDP then Ireland perception is correct. GDP does not represent Roscommon, Donegal etc…
Does it mention what metric they use wealth/richness?
Alternatively others perceive us as vastly more wealthy than we actually are
We’d feel like we lived in a rich country try if we saw delivery of infrastructure projects that improve quality of life. But instead we see massive overspend, missed deadlines, incompetence, and no consequences for repeated failures in these areas.
Towns and cities across the country have dereliction problems. Streets are dirty, people feel unsafe and the administration of justice is considered a joke by most people.
We are a rich country on paper, not in the vast majority of people’s everyday experience.
This map does not surprise me in the least.
We’re in this era of dissonance in Ireland where the prosperity in the stats doesn’t reflect reality on the ground for many people.
Sounds about right.
While I agree that Irish people, particlarly on this sub, underrate our standard of living; this map is absolite trash. A redditor has randomly coloured in a map with no clear methodology. From reading their comments, they don’t seem to know what they’re talking about.
An béal bocht arís!
We are very spoilt in Ireland to be fair and often refuse to see it.
r/mapporn is so full of shit.
Not sure if it’s just me. This is a bit difficult to understand. A bit like a double negative
I’m a foreigner and have lived here for close to 12 years, being born and raised in Germany where they roughly pay the same tax percentage that we pay here.
And one thing that always baffles me is how people aren’t more angry or demand more but I think what’s lacking is perspective. If you live outside of Ireland and realise what levels of public services are being made available in other countries compared to Ireland, the Dail would be on fire within a day.
Filthy streets and over floating bins, dismal hospital services and availability for mental health services, paying a cute 50 quid every time I need to see a GP for a flu, Spending 300 euros on a monthly train ticket with nothing better on the horizon, paying ridiculously high price on fuel, alcohol, tobacco. Absolutely insane insurance rates and whilst we pay some of highest road tax in Europe, I’m still being charged close to 15 quid in tolls to drive from Dundalk to Dublin. It’s getting to a point where you can’t open your front door without being charged a 10er. I absolutely do not mind paying taxes but seeing what my money is being spent on is not even farcical anymore because our elected representatives don’t even go through the effort to hide the shit sandwich we’re being served in a brown paper bag. I am lucky to work in tech and that I can essentially decide at this stage where I want to live and work from within Europe but I love it here. My whole life is in Ireland but seeing that the privilege of being here cost me an additional 20k more annually compared to living in Italy for example whilst getting less than the bare minimum in return makes it harder and harder to keep my head up
Ireland has a higher GDP per capita than Switzerland, go visit Switzerland and you’ll understand why the Irish feel poorer.
Every spotless building, every well maintained public space, the safety you feel anywhere at any hour of the day, the high standards of education and healthcare, the well paying jobs from the CEO down to the office cleaner, and the direct and accountable democracy.
The Irish are poorer than they should be, mostly due to the failings of the political class, of all stripes, who make choices out of self interest or ideological delusion; and even when citizens don’t know the why’s of it, they can sense the unfairness.
No one represents Ireland well, not FF, FG, Labour, SF, People Before Profit… they’re all assholes. Don’t trust politicians, don’t take sides, treat them all with equal contempt and cynicism, and where ever possible, choose direct democracy over representative democracy.
If someone earns a lot for a job you think is easier than yours don’t be annoyed, demand more for yourself, don’t drag down, pull up, refuse to settle for less, apathy kills, futility kills, demand more, demand better, do it smartly; we’re fucking Irish, we put up with a thousand years of shit, no more, no matter who.
Three things to consider:
1. The map takes into account wealth, not GDP, so Ireland shouldn’t be distorted. In addition, it’s the media, not the average.
2. The map seems to correlate with the perceived quality of public services. So, even countries that have higher taxes than Ireland have people who think they are richer, because their taxes are better spent.
3. Because this is a measure of wealth, many former communist countries are skewed more to the red than they ought to be. People in those countries “inherited” or were assigned the ownership of houses and apartments after the fall of communism, so on average they are wealthier than their income would suggest. So, if they perceive themselves as being poor, this perception is closer to reality than the data would suggest.
Only the billionaires and multi-millionaires are getting richer these days.
At lot of people in this country love to put on the “poor mouth” but in reality they are wealthy as fuck.