Wait what? RuZZia with its depleted military can still overwhelm Poland? Come now.
chauvd on
I assume the risk is full Russian mobilization but the jury is still out on if they can even effectively equip fast enough. I would mention training but, come on…
Awibbly on
This means it would only take Poland 2 weeks to beat russia and then they will need allies to help occupy all their new land.
Maple_Chef on
Ukraine has been fighting alone for 3 years…
Away-Lynx8702 on
No need to spend billions of dollars on tanks. Use that money to build millions of fiber-optic FPVs. That’s literally all you need.
irrision on
People said this about Ukraine and look how that worked out.
Serenityxxxxxx on
All of Europe needs to come together to defeat this bully
ibeelive on
What else is the general supposed to say? Unless they have reserve out the wazoo they will make these generalized statements to shore up support for a bigger military budget.
r0ndr4s on
Againsr a bunch of drunks? We would totally help but lets not act like Russia is some kind of hard enemy to fight
Content-Meet-5640 on
So Poland will fall after 14 days, as Ukraine fall after 3 days?
What scale should I use to find out how many actual days this is?
trvsgrey on
Being prepared is always good but after Ukraine, please don’t give me again the “Poland in 5 days” kind of narrative.
YWAK98alum on
The critical assumption behind this doomer statement is brought up in the first line of the body text, so I at least give credit for not burying the lede:
>Poland could repel a potential Russian attack without allied support for no more than two weeks, *as its ammunition stocks would last only that long*.
(Emphasis added.)
Poland has around 216k in its armed forces, the third-largest military in Europe after the US and Turkey. Not as large as Russia on paper, of course, but certainly it ought to be enough to hold for more than 2 weeks, especially because the gap between “on paper” Polish strength and real Polish strength is likely a lot closer than the gap between official and actual Russian unit strength.
What they mean here is that Poland, like Ukraine, would need foreign supplies for its soldiers to use. Which is probably true for every single mainland-European NATO member, because it was never *intended* that every member be wholly internally self-sufficient. As long as the supplies Poland would need are coming from parts of the alliance that are stable and committed to the longevity of the alliance and its central purpose (collective self-defense, particularly against Russia), Poland would get those resupplies. And, of course, if we saw this hypothetical invasion of Poland coming (and remember, we *did* accurately predict the Russian invasion of Ukraine almost to the day), we could start beefing up Poland’s supplies in advance.
Wintermute841 on
Russia is currently using donkeys and golf carts for munition/troop transport on the front in Ukraine, so assuming they are in shape for any sort of a blitzkrieg is a bit bold.
I think Poland’s got a bit of breathing room to prepare and even if the figure stands at 14 days ( wasn’t it 3 days for Ukraine initially ) it should be stretched out longer in the very near future.
Poland is indeed arming like crazy for “some reason”.
TheMissingThink on
Poland can fight alone for two weeks, but after the first few days they’ll be too busy looking for someone to fight with
Suyalus22669900 on
allies are needed to clean up the ruzzian meat mess? aye!
disturbed_waffles on
If Ukraine is able to go +3 years I thought Poland could go the same. Is it a lack of manpower?
_svnset on
Click bait title. This is only about ammo and ofc Poland would get ammo from its allies. (The NATO allies would also enter the war immediately). Ukraine is constantly getting new ammo too…
ownworldman on
More accurate title – we have ammo stocks for two weeks of high intensity fighting.
Ambitious_Ad6334 on
Ukraine can hold off the Russians for three years and now the severely decimated remaining Russian army can take out Poland in weeks… nailed it!
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Wait what? RuZZia with its depleted military can still overwhelm Poland? Come now.
I assume the risk is full Russian mobilization but the jury is still out on if they can even effectively equip fast enough. I would mention training but, come on…
This means it would only take Poland 2 weeks to beat russia and then they will need allies to help occupy all their new land.
Ukraine has been fighting alone for 3 years…
No need to spend billions of dollars on tanks. Use that money to build millions of fiber-optic FPVs. That’s literally all you need.
People said this about Ukraine and look how that worked out.
All of Europe needs to come together to defeat this bully
What else is the general supposed to say? Unless they have reserve out the wazoo they will make these generalized statements to shore up support for a bigger military budget.
Againsr a bunch of drunks? We would totally help but lets not act like Russia is some kind of hard enemy to fight
So Poland will fall after 14 days, as Ukraine fall after 3 days?
What scale should I use to find out how many actual days this is?
Being prepared is always good but after Ukraine, please don’t give me again the “Poland in 5 days” kind of narrative.
The critical assumption behind this doomer statement is brought up in the first line of the body text, so I at least give credit for not burying the lede:
>Poland could repel a potential Russian attack without allied support for no more than two weeks, *as its ammunition stocks would last only that long*.
(Emphasis added.)
Poland has around 216k in its armed forces, the third-largest military in Europe after the US and Turkey. Not as large as Russia on paper, of course, but certainly it ought to be enough to hold for more than 2 weeks, especially because the gap between “on paper” Polish strength and real Polish strength is likely a lot closer than the gap between official and actual Russian unit strength.
What they mean here is that Poland, like Ukraine, would need foreign supplies for its soldiers to use. Which is probably true for every single mainland-European NATO member, because it was never *intended* that every member be wholly internally self-sufficient. As long as the supplies Poland would need are coming from parts of the alliance that are stable and committed to the longevity of the alliance and its central purpose (collective self-defense, particularly against Russia), Poland would get those resupplies. And, of course, if we saw this hypothetical invasion of Poland coming (and remember, we *did* accurately predict the Russian invasion of Ukraine almost to the day), we could start beefing up Poland’s supplies in advance.
Russia is currently using donkeys and golf carts for munition/troop transport on the front in Ukraine, so assuming they are in shape for any sort of a blitzkrieg is a bit bold.
I think Poland’s got a bit of breathing room to prepare and even if the figure stands at 14 days ( wasn’t it 3 days for Ukraine initially ) it should be stretched out longer in the very near future.
Poland is indeed arming like crazy for “some reason”.
Poland can fight alone for two weeks, but after the first few days they’ll be too busy looking for someone to fight with
allies are needed to clean up the ruzzian meat mess? aye!
If Ukraine is able to go +3 years I thought Poland could go the same. Is it a lack of manpower?
Click bait title. This is only about ammo and ofc Poland would get ammo from its allies. (The NATO allies would also enter the war immediately). Ukraine is constantly getting new ammo too…
More accurate title – we have ammo stocks for two weeks of high intensity fighting.
Ukraine can hold off the Russians for three years and now the severely decimated remaining Russian army can take out Poland in weeks… nailed it!