I read somewhere that American defence companies want to open factories in Europe to take advantage of the EU funds. So I have two questions: first, will Donnie let them, and second, which country in their rightful mind will buy?
Mediocre_Painting263 on
Europe still has major challenges ahead of its rearmament. For some asinine reason, the French are attaching British defence cooperation (with the EU) with fisheries and other ‘sensitive’ issues. Europe still has a massive lack of critical enablers which would enable Europe to fight Russia in the first place. European defence coordination is still yet to supersede NATO or the EU. How we’ll lean off of US weapons without losing quite important capabilities remains to be seen. And I can go on and on…
Rearming Europe is more than getting tanks, bullets and men. And my biggest concern is that we get a hotchpotch of militaries with little interoperability and little coordination. Ultimately, European defence needs to supersede military or economic alliances, and needs a cohesive grand strategy on a continental level to guide European militaries forward. We can’t just have everyone winging it and hoping for the best.
GrapefruitForward196 on
well, just look at Italy and its programs. It can carry the whole of Europe, and that’s just Italy, without considering the rest. Let’s also remember that Italy fields the best air force and navy in the whole EU
Flamboyant_Nine on
Good, as we should.
FC__Barcelona on
More and more countries are thinking of reinstating conscription, that’s not a win, it’s a big loss for whoever will be drafted and lose years of his life.
For example, the single biggest win for Romania joining NATO is the dropping of conscription in 2007. I actually had older friends that evaded the draft by living abroad for a couple of years did they finally eliminated it.
BeneficialClassic771 on
As a french i always was more afraid of a weak Germany not standing for itself in front of the US and Russia than a powerful one. Glad they decided to come back to the big boys table. That being said it’s more than time to drop the wasteful and pointless national militaries and work on an efficient european military force within a coalition of the willing
Basileus2 on
Not nearly fast enough
c00l_cat_sgt_ingolf on
… than anticipated
Spooknik on
I really hope we are ready to back Ukraine with intelligence when the US decides to yank the cord again.
Hopefully we are on good enough terms with the Americans to still buy their stuff and give it to Ukraine and they’ll willing to let us transfer it to them (stupid ITAR). Sorry I know everyone wants to go full European, but stuff like Patriots are hard to replace right now.
diamanthaende on
German military officials have repeatedly communicated to the public that they expect a major Russian attack on NATO in 2029-2030.
So there really is no time to waste. By then, Europe will not have gained full independence yet, but it should have more than enough to thwart any Russian aggression.
Another 5 years and we will hopefully be strong enough to stand on our own feet and deter any aggression, no matter from whom.
tkitta on
Yeah sure. Europe after a failed fight with Russia is disarmed. Countries such as Poland admit they given so much ammo to Ukraine they have two week supply. At most. And Poland spends over 5% on defense (!!!)
CharmingTurnover8937 on
Europe hasn’t actually done any rearming yet. We are all still waiting for them to announce the grand plan. In a world where things are changing daily we need Europe to start making decisions and start taking action.
Until something is actually laid out, this is just talk.
acubenchik on
Yet another bs article xD
ManonFire1213 on
Unless they get people to sign up, its not going to matter much in the long run.
RugbyEdd on
Faster than who expected? Trump? He’ll take the credit, but Europe had started to rapidly scale up its military complex before he got into power with his stupid “Europe freeloader” narrative, due to a certain war. The only thing he accomplished was reducing America’s influence over Europe’s military, which it had spent decades building.
ToughSpitfire on
Didn’t Sweden develop a new weapon system in less than two months?
TurbulentAd9109 on
It’s important not to spend money, but to have real fighting power as well as will to fight. Being strong on paper won’t help.
conrat4567 on
Russia wanted this, and the US didn’t expect this. Now Russia has an excuse to tell all its loyalists that “hey, look i told you Europe is super aggressive” and the US is now thinking they are about to be pushed off the world stage
IntelligentLeading88 on
The whole article is basically about statements and vague plans, literally nothing about actual rearmament.
slower-is-faster on
The next world order is going to be Europe and China. Trump has done nothing more than accelerate the fall of the American empire.
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Expected by who?
Very good. We needed that apparently
I read somewhere that American defence companies want to open factories in Europe to take advantage of the EU funds. So I have two questions: first, will Donnie let them, and second, which country in their rightful mind will buy?
Europe still has major challenges ahead of its rearmament. For some asinine reason, the French are attaching British defence cooperation (with the EU) with fisheries and other ‘sensitive’ issues. Europe still has a massive lack of critical enablers which would enable Europe to fight Russia in the first place. European defence coordination is still yet to supersede NATO or the EU. How we’ll lean off of US weapons without losing quite important capabilities remains to be seen. And I can go on and on…
Rearming Europe is more than getting tanks, bullets and men. And my biggest concern is that we get a hotchpotch of militaries with little interoperability and little coordination. Ultimately, European defence needs to supersede military or economic alliances, and needs a cohesive grand strategy on a continental level to guide European militaries forward. We can’t just have everyone winging it and hoping for the best.
well, just look at Italy and its programs. It can carry the whole of Europe, and that’s just Italy, without considering the rest. Let’s also remember that Italy fields the best air force and navy in the whole EU
Good, as we should.
More and more countries are thinking of reinstating conscription, that’s not a win, it’s a big loss for whoever will be drafted and lose years of his life.
For example, the single biggest win for Romania joining NATO is the dropping of conscription in 2007. I actually had older friends that evaded the draft by living abroad for a couple of years did they finally eliminated it.
As a french i always was more afraid of a weak Germany not standing for itself in front of the US and Russia than a powerful one. Glad they decided to come back to the big boys table. That being said it’s more than time to drop the wasteful and pointless national militaries and work on an efficient european military force within a coalition of the willing
Not nearly fast enough
… than anticipated
I really hope we are ready to back Ukraine with intelligence when the US decides to yank the cord again.
Hopefully we are on good enough terms with the Americans to still buy their stuff and give it to Ukraine and they’ll willing to let us transfer it to them (stupid ITAR). Sorry I know everyone wants to go full European, but stuff like Patriots are hard to replace right now.
German military officials have repeatedly communicated to the public that they expect a major Russian attack on NATO in 2029-2030.
So there really is no time to waste. By then, Europe will not have gained full independence yet, but it should have more than enough to thwart any Russian aggression.
Another 5 years and we will hopefully be strong enough to stand on our own feet and deter any aggression, no matter from whom.
Yeah sure. Europe after a failed fight with Russia is disarmed. Countries such as Poland admit they given so much ammo to Ukraine they have two week supply. At most. And Poland spends over 5% on defense (!!!)
Europe hasn’t actually done any rearming yet. We are all still waiting for them to announce the grand plan. In a world where things are changing daily we need Europe to start making decisions and start taking action.
Until something is actually laid out, this is just talk.
Yet another bs article xD
Unless they get people to sign up, its not going to matter much in the long run.
Faster than who expected? Trump? He’ll take the credit, but Europe had started to rapidly scale up its military complex before he got into power with his stupid “Europe freeloader” narrative, due to a certain war. The only thing he accomplished was reducing America’s influence over Europe’s military, which it had spent decades building.
Didn’t Sweden develop a new weapon system in less than two months?
It’s important not to spend money, but to have real fighting power as well as will to fight. Being strong on paper won’t help.
Russia wanted this, and the US didn’t expect this. Now Russia has an excuse to tell all its loyalists that “hey, look i told you Europe is super aggressive” and the US is now thinking they are about to be pushed off the world stage
The whole article is basically about statements and vague plans, literally nothing about actual rearmament.
The next world order is going to be Europe and China. Trump has done nothing more than accelerate the fall of the American empire.