L’opposizione della Turchia minaccia di bloccare il ritorno del lavoro nel Regno Unito a Socialist International per il silenzio sull’arresto del sindaco di Istanbul Imamoglu
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkeys-opposition-threatens-block-labours-return-socialist-international
di TheKaiserSarp
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> “Well, wake up and smell the coffee,” Ozel said. “The British Labour Party wants to be readmitted as a member of an international organisation where I serve as vice president – the Socialist International. They will face the consequences from me.”
Sounds like a really good organisation if admittance is decided on the whims of the VPs homeland drama.
Hahahaha. Any organisation Turks have a vote in will use it for blackmail
Better to keep the Blair-like Labour outside the Socialist International to prevent then from poisoning it from the inside.
As labour is even a Socialist party anymore? They’re barely social democrats at this point considering they’ve decided austerity on the workers is favorable to taxes on the wealthy
EU leaders don’t want to remove Erdogan, they are paying him to keep refugees in Turkey. It’s the same reason why EU leaders support Israel since they ban Palestinians from leaving Palestine.
Honestly, since it seems European social democrats are not interested whatsoever in cooperating with and helping other ones abroad, what even is the point of having an international?
Just disband that shit and have everyone struggle with their respective autocrat alone (while the various autocrats cooperate, of course) since that’s what it seems Europe wants.
Wait, what’s the punishment here?
i don’t care if labour should be or not in the socialist international, but it’s so funny even the turkish opposition loves to veto when they feel offended, branch doesn’t fall far from the tree 😭
Oh no! Anyway …
**Stop romanticizing your own hypocrisy: Erdoğan wasn’t only Turkey’s choice. He was yours too.**
You keep asking, “Why did Turks vote for Erdoğan?” But let’s be honest, he didn’t survive only because of the Turkish electorate. He rose to power, gained legitimacy, and was strengthened by your governments, your media, and your backdoor deals. When secular Turks warned you in the 2000s, Europe was too busy calling Erdoğan a “moderate Muslim leader” and gave him financial and political support. You refused economic help to a secular prime minister during a crisis (Ecevit), but you embraced Erdoğan and empowered the very movement that went on to destroy our judiciary, silence our press, and jail our dissidents.
Some of you now defend this by saying, “That’s democracy, he was elected.” But democracy is not just about majority rule. It’s about pluralism, rule of law, freedom of speech, and fair elections. Right now in Turkey, elected mayors from the opposition are being removed and jailed. Opposition leaders are banned from elections. Protesters are beaten and arrested. Independent media is being shut down. This is not democracy. And if Europe keeps turning a blind eye, then you’re not neutral, you’re complicit.
Let’s not pretend this is only about internal Turkish politics. Europe finds Erdoğan “convenient” because he promises to keep refugees in Turkey, because he allows NATO strategy to function, and now because he’s agreeing to send troops to Ukraine. That’s why he’s tolerated. But when you support authoritarianism just because it serves your short-term interests, how are you any different from countries like China that back dictators when useful?
You accuse us of choosing Erdoğan, but not all of us did. And even those elections weren’t fair. Media was state-controlled. Judges were biased. Ballots were manipulated. And even then, Erdoğan barely reached 51%. Now that he sees he can’t win anymore, he’s simply removing his opponents. When someone like İmamoğlu becomes popular, he’s jailed or disqualified. The vote is being taken away from us. So when we ask for solidarity, we’re not asking you to “save us.” We’re asking you to stop helping the people who are crushing us. If you keep staying silent, you’re not just watching this happen, you’re enabling it.
that’s foreign interference, mate
who needs guys like these if they dole out threats
feels like Turkey is trading in one autocrat for another and are really bad at diplomacy
Sympathy out the window
It is not threatening. How asking for choosing morally is such?
He just asks for stopping to play moral superiority (as Europe always do) if you continue supporting an autocrat as you need Turkeys army to defend Europe against Russia. Autocrats are easy to be bought and as far as I can see, Russia has a leverage over the EU (fyi, Turkeys natural gas is also flowing from Russia, and Turkey is a major tourist destination for Russians – after the plane shotting they didn’t come for a year and he visited Russia for fixation). So do not assume that an autocrat will stand with you in the moment of truth. They applied BRICS last year for the record.
And currently his party is the leading party in every poll, and the current government is becoming more and more islamic, to the levels we didn’t see before.
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Özgür Özel is a drama queen. He is trying to gain votes through the mayor who was arrested for corruption. Stop threatening the parties in Europe, take France as an example. No candidate who was punished for corruption could continue.
Do not impose on us as a candidate a construction billionaire who won his university with bribery and robbed his municipality.
[Andrew Tate is totally right about the statement in terms of the eu leaders I mean I don’t like him but he tells the truth.. ](https://youtube.com/shorts/aa9do0Pk4gw?si=rvsEUAQNSnOUp9NO)
We haven’t heard anything from any EU leader abuot this case which is insane… I was so happy when I saw the video some EU politicans responded ” We stand with Imamoglu” campaign I even commented that day ” Yes we needed that support I hope the EU leaders will step in and support Imamoglu as well” but That didn’t happen. For me it was a clear scene that erdogan made a deal with trump and putin.. It was so suspecious that erdogan switched the side and started to back off Ukraine without getting any criticism from trump.. That alleged support towards Ukraine was a part of his plan.
I think I commented last week that we have already lost this case cause I don’t see any positive progress and yet it gets worse and worse..erdogan will be elected again and his next target will be to remove election so that we will see literally an Oligarchy that’s for sure and The feminin EU will have to deal with a regime country later! EU lost so much by supporting erdogan in this case..
The question is who is going to support Imamoglu? Unbeatable countries like USA, Russia, especially the EU Germany, France, UK backed off erdogan. Maybe Japan, China even Nord Korea lol some African countries?
**The chance of seeing Imamoglu in the election is less than singing the national anthem by farting!**
How popular are Socialists in Turkey?
Most CHP members supported revoking Immunity for parliamentarians. This was ok since the Kurdish HDP was the main target, but they complain now when it came to bite them in the *ss.
A head of a party in the Turkish parliament has been imprisoned for almost 10 years now without a fuzz made by the CHP voters, but now when their interests are being targeted then this is a major issue targeting democracy…