Il 75% degli scienziati statunitensi che hanno risposto al sondaggio naturale considera di partire. Più di 1.600 lettori hanno risposto al nostro sondaggio; Molti hanno detto che stavano cercando lavoro in Europa e in Canada
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y
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Welcome!
You are welcome in France. We have good food and weather is nice.
Well now we can add “°Brain Drain” to the neverending “reasons why we’re fucked” list
Scientists working on stem cells and mRNA may not have a choice if the us government clamps down on them to please the religious loons over there.
Try Australia, no shovelling snow out of your driveway in winter. Heaps of solar and wind for a low carbon footprint. Just a fantastic place to live.
Come to Brisbane. I’m currently on the ferry home after seeing a gig. Beautiful city that is always overshadowed by Sydney and Melbourne.
You are welcome in Canada. We still have a functioning society.
I would Say welcome to Italy but tbh the situation Is not the best here right now. Hoping It Will be Better, please Enjoy your stay in some of our siblings’ countries (and come as tourist if you want)
Please please EU now quickly roll out serious incentives to get a chunk of these experts to come to Europe.
operation paperclip 2.0
I wonder how many people saying it will actually leave. I think a lot of polling is emoting especially with regards to actions. Something like 30% of all Americans said they considered leaving when Trump first won in 2016, barely a fraction even did.
Not a scientist, but I have an exit plan to the UK with my assets.
We are very happy about this, but let’s not kid ourselves. All their dreams will disappear when they come across European wages.
As an ex scientist, I’d like to give as context that a large proportion of scientists already emigrate to follow the money. In many cases half a lab can be non native, or even more, while of the native scientists in the lab, the vast majority either lived abroad in the past or will live abroad in the future.
So it’s really not surprising that scientists move away from a place that’s cutting funding. Nevertheless, this is of course pretty much unheard of.
These are some of the smartest people. They will enrich other countries and impoverish the US. I understand them wanting to leave, I only worry that the more the good ones leave, the more the country will become maga.
Good! All welcomed with open arms.
Science funding in Europe is already lacking. More scientists from abroad wouldn’t really help.
I said this in the other post about the same topic.
Show a list of the people, their fields of study, the open positions in the EU and the available funding.
I’m quite certain that it’s just bullshit, because there are neither the positions nor the funding.
Operation reverse paperclip
How many of these are social scientists? Anyone got access to the entire survey?
Can this poll be taken seriously? I feel like it’s too much, maybe not accessing the whole pool of scientists but specific areas.
The US has always had a weird tension between being backwards in a lot of ways but very open and progressive in others. The progressives have now lost, and the US is accelerating in reverse back to the 1800s.
Who needs those scientists when you can listen to some random guy on the internet?
Please take research support staff too! I have experience coordinating human subjects research at an Ivy League level and currently work supporting research on the data side. Get me the hell out of here!
That was one of the first things I suspected is gonna happen after the re-election and first few full on fascist-days of the second trump term. The US isn’t exactly a save haven for reason and science anymore – this is a huge opportunity for Europe to bring the smartest minds in this world to Europe. Every sane and capable country in europe should ease immigration restrictions for fleeing scientists and open up fonds to finance their studies and research over here. The Netherlands did it allready and I’m pretty sure other countries are working on it too.
Another genius 4D chess move by trump. What an idiot…
As a EU scientist, I really get that but it will make our already bad situation so much worse. It’s already neigh impossible to get a tenured position and they are usually not paid decently. An influx of Americans will increase competition greatly. I would much rather support them in toppling their dictatorial government.
The weather in Greece is nice. We don’t have enough funding but apparently the climate is reason enough to work here for some people.
lol