LONDON — The British government has rejected an EU plan to tie talks on fishing rights to other topics in Keir Starmer’s EU reset — including a defense and security pact.
Speaking on Tuesday U.K. Fishing Minister Daniel Zeichner told a parliamentary committee there would be “no linkage” between fishing negotiations and talks in other areas like security or reduced border checks for goods.
EU governments have hinted that agreement on fishing is their price to give ground on Keir Starmer’s own priorities and say the issues should be dealt with as a package.
Member states like France are worried that they could lose lucrative fishing rights in British waters when the current maritime agreement expires in June 2026. They want to move to more permanent access arrangements.
But Zeichner told a hearing of the U.K. parliament’s Environment Committee: “The French will say what they will say, but we are absolutely determined to stand up for the interests of the U.K. fishing industry.”
Stressing that he was the minister in charge of fishing talks, he added: “I wouldn’t believe everything that is rumored around an issue like this, because obviously there is lots and lots of speculation, but of course, we have discussions, because the transitional period comes to an end in the middle of next year. But no decisions have been taken and there is no linkage.”
In January, The Financial Times reported that the French government was refusing to engage on the question of a U.K.-EU security pact without assurances on fishing, with one EU official quoted as saying “everything is now seen as a quid pro quo”.
But Paris is not alone among EU capitals in wanting the issue dealt with as a priority.
Sweden’s EU Affairs Minister Jessica Rosencrantz last week told POLITICO: “I think we have to find a way where we can do both [fishing and security] because we want to move ahead with the defense partnership but for many countries it’s important to solve the other sensitive issues as well.”
A new security pact with Brussels is a key plank of Keir Starmer’s foreign policy strategy in light of moves by Donald Trump to distance himself from European security.
Brussels has proposed a €150 billion loan program for EU governments to spend on re-arming. The funds should be invested on a “buy more European” basis, according to Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president.
But without a formal defense agreement with Brussels, the U.K. will be locked out of the scheme.
Let down before
Asked whether he had seen comments by Brexit minister Nick Thomas-Symonds hinting that he favored a more stable arrangement, Zeichner said: “He probably would say that. But what we want to do is to secure the best possible outcome that we can for U.K. fisheries, and that will be a further discussion to be held in the months ahead.
“We’re absolutely determined to stand up to the U.K. fishing industry. The fishing industry has been let down before, and I don’t intend to let that happen again.”
The minister’s comments were welcomed by Alistair Carmichael, the Liberal Democrat MP who chairs the Environment Committee, who told him he was “absolutely on the money.”
“Fishermen felt that the deal that was done at the end of the Brexit negotiations was one that did not deliver what they had expected,” he said.
“Anything that is a further backwards step will be viewed very bleakly by the industry, and the even modest progress will still leave them quite a way short of where they want it to be.”
ziplock9000 on
The two things should be utterly unrelated given the crisis.
ziplock9000 on
The two things should be utterly unrelated given the crisis.
Long-Maize-9305 on
Remember though, it’s only the US who ever acts selfishly and short sightedly towards their allies so we should definitely bend over to accommodate the EU at every opportunity.
krazydude22 on
>“The French will say what they will say, but we are absolutely determined to stand up for the interests of the U.K. fishing industry.”
I can’t believe this needed to be spelt out to the EU….
squiggyfm on
Cod War II
PainInTheRhine on
It’s f*** retarded. What fishing has to do with defence? We seriously have bigger problems that some dumb fish. France can just f*** off and if they want to discuss fishing, make it a separate discussion.
mods4mods on
Oh my god France cannot be this petty over some fish.
WilliamWeaverfish on
Russia, China, and Trump laughing at us right now
Dyn-O-mite_Rocketeer on
No one should be surprised by this. Is it petty? Yes. But this was always going to happen post-you-know-what.
The UK will never be allowed to share in the riches of what will become one of the most extravagant military spending sprees in history.
Everyone would be better off if the big 3 got together and streamlined how best to distribute funds between German, French and British military industries. Too late.
Shot-Personality9489 on
This is why Brexit worked, the EU being petty and engulfing everything in beurocracy.
Honestly, I hope we end up doubling down with the EU and moving as far away from America as possible. But the EU really needs to stop this kind of nonsense, this isn’t the time to be messing about and its clearly to position France in a better place to sell defence contracts with BAE/Rolls Royce being massive competitors.
VonTelkka on
As an EU citizen. GOOD! What the f* is this thing with fish? We have more important things than fish. Our safety, and Ukraine.
ImaginaryNourishment on
Can we do things right even fucking once
StrokeOfGrimdark on
Two different matters….
GotSwiftyNeedMop on
We should have made the d day landings conditional on the return of Calais
Old_Roof on
I’m sure I remember EU governments being adamant that defence should have nothing to do with the wider package during the brexit negotiating period.
It would be hilarious, if it wasn’t so serious.
What the hell are the French thinking?
DefInnit on
War and Fish
FootCheeseParmesan on
This is the kind of dumb shit that made Brexit happen.
eruditezero on
And people wonder why Brexit happened…
shroomeric on
It’s absurd to tie them in the first place. And defense is way more important
Mirclae on
Share the fishes !!!
DarthSet on
I would prefer the defense first, fish after.
Showmethepathplease on
It’s genuinely idiocy like this that motivated a lot of frustration in brexiteers who voted to leave
It’s a shame the EU engage in self reflection at the decision beyond the “Britain racist” angle….
AddictedToRugs on
Good. I’m glad Starmer is standing firm on these sorts of things.
And it’s shit like this that would make me vote to stay out of the EU, despite voting remain in 2016.
Fuzzie_Logic on
Russia wins here. Well done France.
mrrocketappliance on
“Give us fish”
Okay take back your economic migrants then
ersentenza on
WTF does defense have to do with fish come on
13luw on
This is so saddening to see, so many British people were behind this deepening of the ties between us and Europe and now that France is just using it as another way to jab us in the back it’s become apparent that this isn’t really much of a crisis at all.
TheTanadu on
>Speaking on Tuesday U.K. Fishing Minister Daniel Zeichner told a parliamentary committee there would be “no linkage” between fishing negotiations and talks in other areas like security or reduced border checks for goods.
Someone didn’t hear about Hobbits and how they were smuggled? /s
Blacktip75 on
Wtf does fishing have to do with defense, sure when talking commercial deals, loop in anything you like but at this point defense is somewhat of a priority.
Natural-Ad773 on
France were doing so well, now they look like fools again good job.
Earl0fYork on
Good. If our government agreed to this it would be little more then surrendering for what? The privilege to send our young men and women to die for an ungrateful continent, we have tried to extend the olive branch but that has done nothing.
Perhaps more drastic actions are required such as bringing our armed forces home to possibly get the mere frame work of a defence pact in place.
This isn’t even about the rearmament program (which we are expected to pay into to benefit from) but a pure defence agreement, if nato collapses we have no choice but to leave the continent and our eastern partners to what ever happens.
Inside_Ad_7162 on
ffs is this a fking joke?
kerouacrimbaud on
I thought I was in r/nottheonion for a second.
kazinski80 on
Now is not the time for this petty nonsense. Are we binding together for a more independent defense plan or are we still just trying to get one over on each other
anotherblog on
Let’s meet in the middle – they can fish in our waters, but only if they use our depth charges.
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LONDON — The British government has rejected an EU plan to tie talks on fishing rights to other topics in Keir Starmer’s EU reset — including a defense and security pact.
Speaking on Tuesday U.K. Fishing Minister Daniel Zeichner told a parliamentary committee there would be “no linkage” between fishing negotiations and talks in other areas like security or reduced border checks for goods.
EU governments have hinted that agreement on fishing is their price to give ground on Keir Starmer’s own priorities and say the issues should be dealt with as a package.
Member states like France are worried that they could lose lucrative fishing rights in British waters when the current maritime agreement expires in June 2026. They want to move to more permanent access arrangements.
But Zeichner told a hearing of the U.K. parliament’s Environment Committee: “The French will say what they will say, but we are absolutely determined to stand up for the interests of the U.K. fishing industry.”
Stressing that he was the minister in charge of fishing talks, he added: “I wouldn’t believe everything that is rumored around an issue like this, because obviously there is lots and lots of speculation, but of course, we have discussions, because the transitional period comes to an end in the middle of next year. But no decisions have been taken and there is no linkage.”
In January, The Financial Times reported that the French government was refusing to engage on the question of a U.K.-EU security pact without assurances on fishing, with one EU official quoted as saying “everything is now seen as a quid pro quo”.
But Paris is not alone among EU capitals in wanting the issue dealt with as a priority.
Sweden’s EU Affairs Minister Jessica Rosencrantz last week told POLITICO: “I think we have to find a way where we can do both [fishing and security] because we want to move ahead with the defense partnership but for many countries it’s important to solve the other sensitive issues as well.”
A new security pact with Brussels is a key plank of Keir Starmer’s foreign policy strategy in light of moves by Donald Trump to distance himself from European security.
Brussels has proposed a €150 billion loan program for EU governments to spend on re-arming. The funds should be invested on a “buy more European” basis, according to Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president.
But without a formal defense agreement with Brussels, the U.K. will be locked out of the scheme.
Let down before
Asked whether he had seen comments by Brexit minister Nick Thomas-Symonds hinting that he favored a more stable arrangement, Zeichner said: “He probably would say that. But what we want to do is to secure the best possible outcome that we can for U.K. fisheries, and that will be a further discussion to be held in the months ahead.
“We’re absolutely determined to stand up to the U.K. fishing industry. The fishing industry has been let down before, and I don’t intend to let that happen again.”
The minister’s comments were welcomed by Alistair Carmichael, the Liberal Democrat MP who chairs the Environment Committee, who told him he was “absolutely on the money.”
“Fishermen felt that the deal that was done at the end of the Brexit negotiations was one that did not deliver what they had expected,” he said.
“Anything that is a further backwards step will be viewed very bleakly by the industry, and the even modest progress will still leave them quite a way short of where they want it to be.”
The two things should be utterly unrelated given the crisis.
The two things should be utterly unrelated given the crisis.
Remember though, it’s only the US who ever acts selfishly and short sightedly towards their allies so we should definitely bend over to accommodate the EU at every opportunity.
>“The French will say what they will say, but we are absolutely determined to stand up for the interests of the U.K. fishing industry.”
I can’t believe this needed to be spelt out to the EU….
Cod War II
It’s f*** retarded. What fishing has to do with defence? We seriously have bigger problems that some dumb fish. France can just f*** off and if they want to discuss fishing, make it a separate discussion.
Oh my god France cannot be this petty over some fish.
Russia, China, and Trump laughing at us right now
No one should be surprised by this. Is it petty? Yes. But this was always going to happen post-you-know-what.
The UK will never be allowed to share in the riches of what will become one of the most extravagant military spending sprees in history.
Everyone would be better off if the big 3 got together and streamlined how best to distribute funds between German, French and British military industries. Too late.
This is why Brexit worked, the EU being petty and engulfing everything in beurocracy.
Honestly, I hope we end up doubling down with the EU and moving as far away from America as possible. But the EU really needs to stop this kind of nonsense, this isn’t the time to be messing about and its clearly to position France in a better place to sell defence contracts with BAE/Rolls Royce being massive competitors.
As an EU citizen. GOOD! What the f* is this thing with fish? We have more important things than fish. Our safety, and Ukraine.
Can we do things right even fucking once
Two different matters….
We should have made the d day landings conditional on the return of Calais
I’m sure I remember EU governments being adamant that defence should have nothing to do with the wider package during the brexit negotiating period.
It would be hilarious, if it wasn’t so serious.
What the hell are the French thinking?
War and Fish
This is the kind of dumb shit that made Brexit happen.
And people wonder why Brexit happened…
It’s absurd to tie them in the first place. And defense is way more important
Share the fishes !!!
I would prefer the defense first, fish after.
It’s genuinely idiocy like this that motivated a lot of frustration in brexiteers who voted to leave
It’s a shame the EU engage in self reflection at the decision beyond the “Britain racist” angle….
Good. I’m glad Starmer is standing firm on these sorts of things.
This certainly aged poorly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1ijbc6t/fishing_rights_will_not_derail_euuk_security_pact/
And it’s shit like this that would make me vote to stay out of the EU, despite voting remain in 2016.
Russia wins here. Well done France.
“Give us fish”
Okay take back your economic migrants then
WTF does defense have to do with fish come on
This is so saddening to see, so many British people were behind this deepening of the ties between us and Europe and now that France is just using it as another way to jab us in the back it’s become apparent that this isn’t really much of a crisis at all.
>Speaking on Tuesday U.K. Fishing Minister Daniel Zeichner told a parliamentary committee there would be “no linkage” between fishing negotiations and talks in other areas like security or reduced border checks for goods.
Someone didn’t hear about Hobbits and how they were smuggled? /s
Wtf does fishing have to do with defense, sure when talking commercial deals, loop in anything you like but at this point defense is somewhat of a priority.
France were doing so well, now they look like fools again good job.
Good. If our government agreed to this it would be little more then surrendering for what? The privilege to send our young men and women to die for an ungrateful continent, we have tried to extend the olive branch but that has done nothing.
Perhaps more drastic actions are required such as bringing our armed forces home to possibly get the mere frame work of a defence pact in place.
This isn’t even about the rearmament program (which we are expected to pay into to benefit from) but a pure defence agreement, if nato collapses we have no choice but to leave the continent and our eastern partners to what ever happens.
ffs is this a fking joke?
I thought I was in r/nottheonion for a second.
Now is not the time for this petty nonsense. Are we binding together for a more independent defense plan or are we still just trying to get one over on each other
Let’s meet in the middle – they can fish in our waters, but only if they use our depth charges.
…and they are fishing for Russian submarines