We would have if the EU were one federal country and/or shared a common language. With neither everyone does their own thing on too small a scale.
SamifromLegoland on
The toughest nut to crack in Europe. How to get rid of Microsoft, Amazon and Meta in our lives. Replacing Coke, Tabasco, and ketchup is much easier (and already done in my household).
CharmingTurnover8937 on
I’m glad the conversation is now being had, but we should have been looking at this a decade ago. Sadly, I just can’t see this going anywhere. The US companies are so integrated into our lives now that it will be a real pain to remove, and many won’t want the headache of going through with it.
I hope this continent can finally grow a spine and be willing to do it, but I just can’t see it.
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assflange on
Thought she was imploring us to buy US products only a month or two ago…
AwkwardBet7634 on
If Microsoft shut off services we would be absolutely crippled.
Literally everything depends on it.
TrickEnvironmental44 on
I think there is room for isolationism in tech, like China!
XWasTheProblem on
Absolutely. I’m glad this is being said more and more often.
Having options and extra markets available is great, but when many critical points of your society depend on the whims of a country whose administration has as much IQ as it has capacity for empathy, things become problematic very, very quickly.
WP27I on
European government: good ideas from last century, today!
BOB_eDy on
Less Orange US means a freer Europe.
rleondk on
The EU should just do what the US is trying to do to TikTok, ban Twitter/FB/instagram/Reddit/Snapchat – if they don’t sell to a European company
DokMabuseIsIn on
She should be asking why American companies are so dominant in the tech field — It’s much easier to start a new business in US.
“Let a hundred flowers bloom” . . . and the market weed out the low performers. The simple formula works.
Ok_Battle5814 on
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Sumpflager on
I want one Euro everytime an EU offical says some smart shit that will not be backed by any action whatsoever.
watch-nerd on
If this happens, the US tech oligarchs will revolt. This is not what they thought was supposed to happen.
They thought they were signing up for increased pressure to reduce EU regulations and push even more US tech into Europe.
Instead, they’ve donated millions to see their revenues eroded by billions and their stock market caps by trillions.
Stephenalzis on
Luckily, with a 54% tariff on China and 44% tariff on Taiwan, the US won’t be producing much in the way of technology anytime within the next decade!
foamingdogfever on
Maybe the year of Linux on the desktop is actually here. /s
Artistic_Concern_33 on
I find it amusing when people talk about abandoning U.S. tech—because, let’s be real, it’s practically impossible. For starters, the very platform you’re using to complain—Reddit—is U.S.-based. So is GitHub.
Having worked at Microsoft, I can tell you firsthand that nearly every major financial institution and government body relies heavily on Microsoft infrastructure. The only “workaround” some people suggest is asking Microsoft to adopt European-specific protocols—like it already does for the U.S. and China. Let’s just say, that’s not a simple ask, and realistically, it’s not going to happen at scale.
And to those shouting “Just use Linux”—good luck. Try teaching your average accountant how to navigate Linux, or better yet, getting your IT team trained to troubleshoot Linux issues efficiently. Now imagine setting up AAD (Azure Active Directory) or on-prem login credentials on Linux, or replacing Microsoft’s seamless ADFS system with some alternative.
Then there’s support. Microsoft offers 24/7 global support—good luck finding that kind of responsiveness and coverage elsewhere. The alternatives just aren’t built for enterprise at that scale.
ClasseBa on
Just tax the shit out of Google, Facebook and Amazon in the EU first. Hurt them if they want to operate here.
jmalez1 on
wow, self sufficient, that is a new idea for Europe
Primary-Signal-3692 on
Remember how Europe was going to have its own payment network like Visa/Mastercard, then its own social media sites, then its own mobile OS like android, then its own tech companies, then its own version of Windows. Then none of this happened. These politicians are just fantasists.
paulywauly99 on
If Europe had much hope of outpacing the US in technology they’d have done it years ago. Reality is the Europeans can’t even build a half decent business web site, never mind a world beating app for anything, though I’m sure there are exceptions such as Spotify. I’m European.
heapOfWallStreet on
Wow it only takes 25 years to understand that.
-SoulAmazin- on
I have zero faith in European countries actually making any real progress and developing their own cutting-edge technologies.
I just can’t see it with all the bureaucracy and dinosaurs at the helm.
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100% Agreed.
Happily.
We would have if the EU were one federal country and/or shared a common language. With neither everyone does their own thing on too small a scale.
The toughest nut to crack in Europe. How to get rid of Microsoft, Amazon and Meta in our lives. Replacing Coke, Tabasco, and ketchup is much easier (and already done in my household).
I’m glad the conversation is now being had, but we should have been looking at this a decade ago. Sadly, I just can’t see this going anywhere. The US companies are so integrated into our lives now that it will be a real pain to remove, and many won’t want the headache of going through with it.
I hope this continent can finally grow a spine and be willing to do it, but I just can’t see it.
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Thought she was imploring us to buy US products only a month or two ago…
If Microsoft shut off services we would be absolutely crippled.
Literally everything depends on it.
I think there is room for isolationism in tech, like China!
Absolutely. I’m glad this is being said more and more often.
Having options and extra markets available is great, but when many critical points of your society depend on the whims of a country whose administration has as much IQ as it has capacity for empathy, things become problematic very, very quickly.
European government: good ideas from last century, today!
Less Orange US means a freer Europe.
The EU should just do what the US is trying to do to TikTok, ban Twitter/FB/instagram/Reddit/Snapchat – if they don’t sell to a European company
She should be asking why American companies are so dominant in the tech field — It’s much easier to start a new business in US.
“Let a hundred flowers bloom” . . . and the market weed out the low performers. The simple formula works.
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I want one Euro everytime an EU offical says some smart shit that will not be backed by any action whatsoever.
If this happens, the US tech oligarchs will revolt. This is not what they thought was supposed to happen.
They thought they were signing up for increased pressure to reduce EU regulations and push even more US tech into Europe.
Instead, they’ve donated millions to see their revenues eroded by billions and their stock market caps by trillions.
Luckily, with a 54% tariff on China and 44% tariff on Taiwan, the US won’t be producing much in the way of technology anytime within the next decade!
Maybe the year of Linux on the desktop is actually here. /s
I find it amusing when people talk about abandoning U.S. tech—because, let’s be real, it’s practically impossible. For starters, the very platform you’re using to complain—Reddit—is U.S.-based. So is GitHub.
Having worked at Microsoft, I can tell you firsthand that nearly every major financial institution and government body relies heavily on Microsoft infrastructure. The only “workaround” some people suggest is asking Microsoft to adopt European-specific protocols—like it already does for the U.S. and China. Let’s just say, that’s not a simple ask, and realistically, it’s not going to happen at scale.
And to those shouting “Just use Linux”—good luck. Try teaching your average accountant how to navigate Linux, or better yet, getting your IT team trained to troubleshoot Linux issues efficiently. Now imagine setting up AAD (Azure Active Directory) or on-prem login credentials on Linux, or replacing Microsoft’s seamless ADFS system with some alternative.
Then there’s support. Microsoft offers 24/7 global support—good luck finding that kind of responsiveness and coverage elsewhere. The alternatives just aren’t built for enterprise at that scale.
Just tax the shit out of Google, Facebook and Amazon in the EU first. Hurt them if they want to operate here.
wow, self sufficient, that is a new idea for Europe
Remember how Europe was going to have its own payment network like Visa/Mastercard, then its own social media sites, then its own mobile OS like android, then its own tech companies, then its own version of Windows. Then none of this happened. These politicians are just fantasists.
If Europe had much hope of outpacing the US in technology they’d have done it years ago. Reality is the Europeans can’t even build a half decent business web site, never mind a world beating app for anything, though I’m sure there are exceptions such as Spotify. I’m European.
Wow it only takes 25 years to understand that.
I have zero faith in European countries actually making any real progress and developing their own cutting-edge technologies.
I just can’t see it with all the bureaucracy and dinosaurs at the helm.
Lets buy in into Linux and other free software