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    1. Ok_Trick9246 on

      I have 1gb/s for 4 years. They want to upgrade to fiber 5gb next year. Where slow internet?

    3. FluffnPuff_Rebirth on

      After around 100Mb/s Download speeds I am more concerned over packet losses than speed. As I am not installing massive steam games every day, it really doesn’t matter that much to me whether something takes 5 minutes or 50 minutes to download if I don’t have to do it every day. Besides that, I can’t really think of any uses for, say, 1Gb/s connection that would change much.

      But what a fiber connection does give that a half a century old copper wire doesn’t is proper signal integrity, and random lag spikes that kill me in video games or pages refusing to load unless I refresh will frustrate me much more than 100Mb/s speeds do.

    5. mscotch2020 on

      My mobile internet is 700MB.

      Home internet is way faster

      Europe is outdated

    6. rbnd on

      It should be clear what kind of internet is being talked about as for mobile internet in Germany it is rather okay big cities but in the villages it’s quite bad this can be discovered when traveling in Germany on local trains. 

      As far as the cable internet in Germany it is improving unfortunately optic fiber coverage is not as large as in some other countries but the direction is good

      As for the prices some people call them high but when you rely them to the average salary they are not high at all

    7. first-logged-in on

      I can confirm: although I pay for Vodafone’s gigabit, it’s very unstable and there are no other providers in my area. The mobile connection could be pretty bad as well even in Berlin

    8. East-Royal1337 on

      And here I am in a forgotten village in rural Romania with gigabit fiber internet for like 8 eur per month.

    9. Ok-Pineapple2365 on

      Center of Athens,Greece…18/0.7 Mbps ADSL…48€ a month.
      Cry about something else.

    10. Snottygreenboy on

      I live in Munich south and only got high speed fibre optic cable about a year ago. When I lived in a small town in the Netherlands, I got fibre optic cable back in 2000…. So it took 25 years for the third largest German city to catch up

    11. Party-Cake5173 on

      This is one area where I, as a Croatian, really can’t complain. Every mobile network (not that there are large number of them—only 3 and 2 MVNO) has excellent coverage which excels many countries in Europe. Everywhere you go, there’s pretty much always at least 2G or 3G signal. One mobile network operator (Telemach) offers nationwide 5G while HT and A1 offer it only in bigger cities. All three operators also have plans with unlimited data (thanks Tele2).

      Sure, services aren’t THAT cheap, and the operators will try to fuck you every single time, but their service really is on the level you’d expect.

    12. THBLD on

      If you’re in a big city, you can get pretty damn fast cable internet, had 1Gb/s for like 5yrs now. But leaving the cities boundaries it gets very bad fast, no pun intended.

      Mobile data is usually what’s crap here, fake ass 5G here with only ever 2 bars showing… 😒
      And the adaption of 5G in general here has been like 10 years behind most countries.

    13. No_Style7841 on

      We got glass fibre in the village this year, but don’t even see the point in upgrading from my 5Mb, what’s the point in having multiple GB?

    14. ProcessElectrical727 on

      Im in Germany and everywhere the internet has been great, traveling in rural areas. I dont know who these numbers represent tbh.

    15. elMaxlol on

      Problem is not the speed its the pricing. German fibre is extremely expensive because many years ago a fat politician gave the job to telekom who fucked us all.

    16. dobinka on

      My cellular data internet was faster than the hotel wifi in Germany, when I was visiting it last summer 🫣

    18. not_a_feature on

      I really don’t understand the article / the rant of everybody else.

      I have a 50gb 5G mobile data contract or 9€ a month and a reliable Gigabit at home..

      I think the problem is mainly people being to lazy to change their provider/contract.

    19. QuantumWire on

      We have to. Thanks to corruption. Our erstwhile communication ministers brother-in-law had a company producing copper cables. So, copper cable it was!

      And several corruption cases later a good portion of the portion still thinks the CDU is good for the country, somehow.

    21. Kasia27 on

      My house is able to get fiber in the next 3 years but it is supposed to cost me 70 Euros for 1000mbits and thats just not doable for me. So I won’t get fiber and after the first period of having fiber installed for free (like it is now), they expect me to not only pay for the installment but also internet for 70 euros. As a private person not a business that pretty much means my house won’t ever get it, I personally won’t see a difference between 250 or 1000 (or surely not enough), which in conclusion means one person less is taking part in renewing the infrastructure. And I don’t see how it will be any different for many others living here. As long as providers think we are the cashcow of Europe fiber won’t land.

    22. poempel88 on

      We are fast on the AUTOBAHN, we can’t be fast on everything.

    23. Trolololol66 on

      People always complain about Germany, but when I’m traveling to Australia, NZ, the US, Uk, France, Poland etc. the Wi-Fi seems to be on par or worse than in Germany.

    24. CrimsonTightwad on

      Because it follows the famous Deutsch Bahn model of delays and cancellations.

    25. Stablebrew on

      It goes far back than the last few years.

      Germany already had the chance to built fibre optics in late 80’s and 90’s. Fitting out Western Germany, even rural regions, with fibre optics would cost around 3 Billion DM per year (roughly 6 Billion today’s money) back then. But Channcelor Kohl decided to save money by two thirds using coppre wire.

      With only one main provider for years (Deutsche Post/Telekom), a pressure to modernize germany never existed. Without competion, a provider doesn’t have to modernize it’s infrastructure.

      Today’s time is different, but providers focus more on big/huge cities, ignoring rural regions.

    26. ataylorm on

      Here in Costa Rica the government knew they needed to invest in order to elevate the country. So the government had the national electric company roll out the fiber. At first it was expensive as hell, $300 USD equivalent for 500mb per month. But they also had to allow private companies to use the fiber backbone. Now we have competition and you can get 500mb for about $50 and gigabit for about $80. Still a little pricey, but they have 250mb plans around $20 which is enough for most people and those plans include TV as well.

    27. drkravens on

      That is the Germans most common trait, they love to put up with things 😄

    28. finobi on

      Finland also lagged behind probably because Nokia and next to free mobile plans for over decade. Now we seem to have fiber boom here, got fiber last summer from new ISP, now old ISP reacted and is building their fiber connection for free so soon I’ll have two fibers. There is also two more ISPs looking for fiber clients.

      But in same time many neighbours tell that mobile hotspot is more than enough for them and some ISP study showed that less than 50% households having fiber connection actually has internet subscription for fiber.

    29. Capt_Peng0 on

      i didn’t read the article but the easy answer is a corrupt postal-minister in the 1980s scrapped the plan to build a complete fiber network in West Germany until 2015 and build a copper-TV-cable system instead.

    31. Unfair-Foot-4032 on

      Look up Kupfer-Kohl. What we are experiencing now are the remnants of his stupid corrupt decision.

    32. pantrokator-bezsens on

      I mean the internet in Germany is bad, but at least it is very expensive

    33. oakpope on

      I lived in a small town by the ocean in France. Our building has fiber since 2015.

    35. frnzprf on

      Democracy. Some people don’t want it. The people who complain about slow internet are not the one blocking new infrastructure.

    36. kdlt on

      I’m honestly shocked how well Austria is doing.

      But sometimes I travel to the west of Austria, through Germany (small with train, through Munich if car) and.. it’s so shocking, it’s like going back in time.

      Internet just immediately drops, speeds ar horrible, reception, never heard of her.

      Meanwhile in Austria the whole Autobahn and train the only places were you understandably don’t have perfect reception are tunnels and a few known spotty places due to geography or whatever.

      A few vacations to the north of Germany are the same.

      And it’s the worst of both worlds, because in Austria rural areas are shit for cables but they spent a lot of effort to make wireless viable, so even in shit hole, mountaintop Vorarlberg, you will have pristine 5g connectivity. So while our cable renewal is going really slow, wireless is doing a bunch of heavy lifting and is cheaper due to not having to go to each home/splitter.

      In Germany I don’t even have good reception in parts of Munich, and cables don’t make up for that.

    37. AdmiraalKroket on

      I had 1gbit for a year because it was a good deal. Now I have 200 or 250mbit again and I don’t notice the difference. It’s still fast enough that updating something doesn’t take the entire evening like 20 years ago.

      I wouldn’t upgrade to 1gbit even if it’s just €5 a month, but that might be bevause im Dutch

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