Quindi se guardi questo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7y28sczuhi
Questo inizierà negli Stati Uniti, ma penso (paura?) Questo arriverà anche in Europa. Dal momento che dice esplicitamente che lavorerà con Trump in modo che il governo degli Stati Uniti possa aiutare a spingere "libertà di parola" in tutto il mondo.
Ora tbh temo in paesi come il Belgio questo renderà ancora più facile per i politici diffondere disinformazione.
Si potrebbe dire ma sì, se agiranno meglio sui rapporti, non sarà un problema del genere. Tuttavia, se guardiamo il loro track record oggi per ottenere un post in cui il nome di una BV viene utilizzato per truffarsi le persone con criptovaluta non viene nemmeno rimosso, non ho alcuna speranza che in futuro andrà meglio.
Sono curioso di vedere cosa pensano la gente di questo argomento. Sono anche curioso di vedere come l’Europa reagirà a questo non riesco a immaginare che abbandoneranno le leggi in vigore per facilitare questo per il meta.
What's your opinion on Zuckerberg removing a lot of censorship systems within meta apps (Facebook, Instagram, Threads, …)
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di GreyishWolf
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There we will need to count on our EU politicians to not cave.
> Now tbh I fear in countries like Belgium this will just make it even more easy for politicians to spread misinformation.
And then they get called out for it, like Raoul Hedebouw and his Colruyt fiasco. Big deal.
Sensation, rage bait and propaganda make money. Of course they want to remove any obstacles to do more of that.
The EU should straight up ban them if they insist.
A European platform that can abide by the rules will surface, and European users will kick and scream when they go through withdrawal … but it is for the best.
Not much Trump can push really. The EU is definitely breaking ties with the US and is slowly mustering up a defense. Slowly but surely most business contracts are evaporating and Meta may follow suit since Zuckerberg already has had massive issues in terms of privacy; I remember the EU fining him for that.
The EU simply cannot allow Zuckerberg to just ignore the GDPR in Europe. At that point our laws of privacy are just dead in the water and that will cause a massive backlash. So the worst that’ll happen is that all Meta services become inactive in Europe. This to me feels like the last thing Zuckerberg wants to achieve, otherwise he wouldn’t be trying to get Trump to push the EU to relax privacy laws. He makes way too much money in Europe to just drop us as customers.
So my view? Eventually Trump will have to bend or will have to declare war on the EU for Greenland. At that point Zuckerberg’s request will become irrelevant.
Not having any form of censorship is the best way to prevent the misinformation to spread. Otherwise, who decide what information is good and can be shared and which information is false ? It will always be someone with an agenda.
Not control is the best way.
At this point FB is just a propaganda channel for US and other far right lol. I had barely anything off it in my feed before now it’s just a deluge. Threads quickly becoming the same with being shown all these delusional MAGA morons.
It’s only censorship if you are a bigot.
OP is probably a Vlaams Belang voter.
Well, considering how much of a cesspoll Facebook is in terms of misinformation, IA/bots and bigotry… I’m almost curious to find out how it would look without moderation.
That being said Xitter exists to give us an idea, and it’s basically naziland/4chan 2.0 now. We don’t need more of that.
“Freedom of speech” yeah try saying cisgender and see how that goes lmao
What is there to fear? Just don’t use it if you’re so scared of free speech…
My frustration with the cesspool that Meta social media has become was growing over recent years. Zuck crawling up Trumps was the drop. Deleted my FB and Insta accounts a month ago and haven’t regretted it since.
Maybe … add a new … tariff, named `hatred tariff`?
I don’t use them that much anyway
I used to work at Meta (2018-2022). A lot of the automated moderation systems already barely worked for content in Dutch because of relatively low volume and training data, compared to bigger languages. Human moderation has already been significantly reduced over the last 5+ years as a cost saving measure. Almost none of your reports will ever have reached a human. The only things that get guaranteed human reviewers are copyright claims, and those are quite a lot of work to fill out (and obviously only work for actual copyright issues).
So, things will get a bit worse on Facebook in Belgium, but not significantly, in Dutch you will probably not even notice. People who speak French will probably notice a bigger shift.
I am also proud to say that I was the person who took down all of the ‘je suis Jürgen’ profile frames, and flagged most of the support groups (which led to their removal). Around that time I was one of two people at Meta working on profile frames (basically firefighting one press crisis after the other). I also took down most of the antivax profile frames etc, since we couldn’t get reviewers allocated.
I made an account and even without having any friends or contacts in Facebook 70% of the content was paid propaganda from VB. it’s disgusting
Who cares i kicked that woke ass f book out 2 years ago.
It’s misleading to suggest this is about censorship or free speech. That’s not applicable. Their business case is controlling which info/ads end up in your feed. Fundamentally that’s already not ‘free speech’ anymore. Beyond that, just like any other media, they need to follow the Belgian law. This includes banning scams, adhering to gdpr etc.
Moderation is not censorship. And let’s remember, the US is the only country where “freedom of speech” is unrestricted – and not even there, after all, you can’t support Palestine or you get deported, but the sieg heil is welcome – specially if you support Israel.
I don’t care. Not using any of their services.
It was already a cesspool. Now it’s going to be the Augean stables.