Trump Tariffes Live: l’UE supplica la Cina di non intensificare la guerra commerciale dopo i raduni di FTSE
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/ftse-stock-markets-trump-tariffs-china-uk-eu-latest-news-b2729406.html
di iamCheems
Trump Tariffes Live: l’UE supplica la Cina di non intensificare la guerra commerciale dopo i raduni di FTSE
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/ftse-stock-markets-trump-tariffs-china-uk-eu-latest-news-b2729406.html
di iamCheems
32 commenti
The only person who’s escalating the trade war is Donald Trump. Even Republicans have critisized the tariffs.
China has full freedom to respond to Trumps tariffs with **actual** reciprocal tariffs.
EU should do the same. In no way should EU let U.S get away with this bullshit.
This is how an independent country acts on the world stage! Our EU policians got complacent for half a century in working for the US interests first and for us later! Good job, China!
The EU doesnt plea, but negotiates. As any sane person does.
“Pleads” is an odd choice of words. Typically British headline sensationalism.
China has the full right to stand tall.
EU has the full right to take the traders perspective.
The bully in the room is the US.
I explicitely say the US, not Trump. I definitely do not hate Americans, but it is the Americans that voted Trump in.
How I read and interpret the article.
Right now, US and China are engaged in a pissing contest that can throw the world economy in a bigger chaos.
EU is just calling for a bit of maturity instead of muscle flexing.
The thing is, if everyone stands firm and simply retaliates the US won’t be able to keep this going. They will fold first, and fast. But alas, the EU is full of US vassals so it won’t do that.
EU should start to work with China. Not against it. If Europ do what Trump want then we might be in WW3. As soon US is in war, that Russia is free to do anything with Europ. Europ cannot be a tool in a game.
It’s annoying how as usual EU is passive to respond to threats and still want and think a relationship with a messed up USA in this current time line is somehow still a possible Ally that could be salvaged , Canada and China on the other hand just immediately retaliated
Granted a valid excuse is, EU is a ton of countries that often need unilateral 100% yes votes for a lot of things, while Canada and China is just one country on its own making decisions, one of which is an authoritarian state that just need a singular person to do anything.
Fucking hell, it’s not enough to capitulate to Trump, now we’re begging China to capitulate as well? I have never been more ashamed of being European.
Appeasement does not work. How hard is that to understand? A show of force is the only way to get Trump to back down.
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I like Trumps thinking: “Yeah, we are making chinese imports more expensive for our own people, that will show China.” In reality he is just trying to fix the USA’s debt problem by letting the citizens pay it via tariffs.
So, what you gonna do USA? Not importing stuff you need? Or just making it more expensive for your own people? The USA is hooked on imports and consumption, like the junkie who needs his fix – he will pay more because he needs it.
And yeah, making stuff in the USA again and bRingInG BacK All tHosE jObS – have fun paying triple the price for your iPhone while americans are working in Apple’s sweatshops.
alternative headline: china tells ukraine not to escalate with russia, urges calm for both sides after russia captures Cherniv, Sumy, Kharkov, in addition to their current occupations.
at least plenty of sane people in this thread
UK paper The Independent: EU pleads with China not to escalate trade war
[Chinese state paper Xinhua](https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1828836823047126591&wfr=spider&for=pc): Li Qiang spoke with EC President Von der Leyen
It sounds kind of like the editors of the Independent wants to start something.
Sorry, but I’m with China on this one.
If only, instead of collectively responding to tariffs, we could all coordinate and raise taxes on the rich so that they wouldn’t have anywhere to escape to.
That would be cool.
All this chaos ultimately stems from rich fucks with too much power. But no, let’s lower the tax rate on the 1% instead and keep pretending that we’re all in this together.
You don’t negotiate with 2 kinds of people: bullies and lunatics.
Our leaders must not waste time mincing words. Mark EU products in all supermarkets and let the boycott begin. Form a trading partnership with Latin America, Canada and China, and exclude the US.
I’m sorry but who is escalating here? It’s us.
Nothing in this link is about the EU?
No, no, let them keep escalating. This is fucking hilarious watching the US market topple over.
Fuck that, China do what the EU also should do. Give them a big middle finger
Where does it say that the EU is pleading with China? The EU wants a negotiated agreement between the USA and China to avoid the Chinese dumping goods on the EU market because of the tariffs on selling to the USA.
Where is the strategic thinking? The EU will get a BETTER deal with the US if the US and China trade war escalates. If the US negotiates a trade deal with everyone except the US, the US is in a very weak position. So EU should want other countries to escalate against the US, and the EU should leverage that situation to get a good deal. Let Macron or someone who understands strategy negotiate for Europe, please.
I hope China continues to stand up to this dotard
Stop negotiating with this orange terrorist
China doesn’t give a fuck what EU says. It’s their right to protect themselves, so should we. If Trump wants a new world order he can have it – but alone.
They threaten to invade our territory, they tell us we are shit, they threaten us with breaking the alliance, they start a trade war, and we try to… what?!
The lack of leadership is a serious problem in eu.
EU must learn to stop this weak appeasement shit. Bullies will only increase their antics unless met with strong resistance… did they learn nothing from 1933-1939?
Before we jump on the trade war bandwagon consider the US has a ton more liquidity right now than anyone else in the world. China’s endgame is different to that of the EU and escalating brings them closer to their goals (annexing Taiwan, the SCS and more) but the same isn’t true for us.
Instability and a steep decline in living standards will affect all governments, we’d exacerbate that if we retaliate too hard.
Trump knows these tariffs aren’t reciprocal, knows his trade deficit demands aren’t feasible and this isn’t a negotiating tactic, it’s the subservience of economic rationality to fascism.
If we let our egos dictate this, among the many harms, we push far right Americans further to the extreme and risk making things harder for his domestic opposition for absolutely no gain. He’s happy to continue to extort, happy to escalate, so if we don’t have a clear endgame here I’m not sure we should respond.
If we were to respond in kind fine – but where are the FTAs with allies that we’ll need to weather this? Where’s our direct investment in affected industries? To what benefit really is our responding in kind? This isn’t a rational actor who would change their policies based on us inflicting economic harm, and quite frankly fascists want these kinds of responses because they serve to alienate, isolate, create resentment and grievances.
Maybe leading the way means forging new FTAs and quickly, and implementing the policies suggested by Draghi.
We have to simultaneously consider our own defense, economy and diplomacy, and we’ve historically been very good at all 3, but not when we act brash.
We must be firm, decisive and not let into fear or ego.
I’m an American who didn’t vote for the orange dick tater. Please do not let this POS bully you. Make us pay for the stupidity of MAGAts.