Nessun ulteriore espansione dell’UE mentre Bloc mantiene il principio di unanimità, afferma l’accordo di coalizione tedesca
https://tvpworld.com/86168950/no-further-eu-expansion-while-bloc-maintains-principle-of-unanimity-german-coalition-agreement-says
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I agree with this. Countries like Hungary will forever hold back the EU if the unanimous voting continues and the EU will never be a super power with it in place. There should be categories of proposals and corresponding voting requirements with the most stringent being a super majority in my opinion. That being said, I don’t see how this rule will ever change without a unanimous vote and I don’t see some countries accepting this.
That’s reasonable, yes. So do away with the veto and use qualified voting instead.
Just imagine how well your own country would work if anyone could veto laws, inititives, and projects.
Oh look, Germany trying to rule Europe again…
Want to get Orban out? Use European institutions to do that, but for that accept independent nominations to those institutions, give them resources and get ready to accept theirs decisions, even when they target their own countries. I would like to see that, knowing that would target my country too, but I’m tired of seeing corruption, favouritism, waste, lobbying and infringement of laws pass with impunity.
I agree fully yes.
There is zero chance that unanimity is voted out, which means they effectively are saying “no further expansion while we are the German government”.
Not much choice really, it would be completely stalemate if you enlarge while still keeping unanimity. No decision power at all.
This is a double edged sword tbh
Great news for those who voted to leave the EU in the UK.
Agreed. Also, federalization must begin.
Sovereign states will **never** give up unanimity / veto rights in key sensitive areas for if they did, they would no longer be sovereign states. EU federation is not as popular an idea as Reddit discussions make it look like. Smaller member states would not want larger member states steamrolling their sovereignty. Yet *of course* Germany wants to get rid of unanimity as they would benefit the most from it while it would be disastrous for smaller member states where Euroscepticism would increase very quickly.
The real problem is antagonistic member states like Hungary or Slovakia. Yet the simplistic solution is always to punish those who play along…
Agreed, maybe go for 2/3 majority vote needed but do away with veto power.
Getting rid of unanimity is the bare minimum of making EU a functioning bloc. Otherwise, what’s the point?
**The agreement between Germany’s conservatives and social democrats that was agreed upon last week stipulates that their coalition government would oppose further expansion of the European Union unless the bloc scraps its unanimity principle.**
The conservative center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU), along with its Bavarian sister party Christian Social Union (CSU), [signed the coalition agreement](https://tvpworld.com/86078837/germanys-merz-secures-coalition-deal-with-centre-left) with the Social Democratic Party (SPD) on April 9.
In the document, which is more than 140 pages long, only four sentences are devoted to the expansion of the European Union.
The agreement reads: “The EU’s enlargement and its capacity to absorb new members must go hand in hand. Therefore, we need internal consolidation and reform of the EU, at the latest with the next enlargement, to strengthen its institutions.”
The agreement highlights how the unanimity principle required in some cases is already hampering the bloc’s ability to conduct policies.
“The consensus principle in the European Council must not become a brake on decision-making. This also applies in principle to the remaining decisions requiring unanimity in the Council of the EU.”
The four sentences have not attracted a lot of attention so far, although they will be key in shaping Berlin’s foreign policy in the years to come, according to *Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung*’s Monday article by Michael Martens.
According to Martens, this marks a shift in Berlin’s attitude to EU expansion and a public admission that “the inability to make decisions is the main obstacle to accepting new countries.”
# One member, one veto
With every new member state gaining the right to veto, unanimous decision-making would become impossible. For example, Serbia’s membership would likely mean that no uniform policy targeting the Kremlin would be possible.
As the *FAZ* article notes, other European leaders, such as Emmanuel Macron, have long warned that further expansion would make decision-making harder than it already is with 27 members, and it is hard to imagine how the bloc would operate if all current candidate states would join, bringing the number up to 35.
Even abandoning the unanimity principle appears impossible since it would require unanimity, something that, as Martens points out, previous German cabinets have long realized but were apprehensive about addressing openly.
At the same time, he points out that elsewhere in the agreement, CDU, CSU and SPD recognize that the admission of the six West Balkan countries (Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia and Serbia) as well as Ukraine and Moldova is “important” and “in the mutual interest” of said countries and the EU.
To circumnavigate the issue, Martens suggests a solution according to which countries wanting to join the EU would be given access to the common market without full membership status, allowing them to avoid the problems stemming from more countries having veto powers.
Agreed
to bad for Ukraine who was promised this
It’s obvious. We are already having problems with Hungary. Ten million lunatics that are keeping the EU hostage can you imagine adding Serbia?
Countries that have been diligently implementing and complying with dozens of chapters of EU accession negotiations for many years can fuck off, I guess.
Requiring unanimity is foolish. It holds them back.
It’s curious how r/Europe is usually quite positive about the EU and further integration in general, but whenever there is an article about abandoning unanimity or about any other hint of further federalization, the comments are full of people protecting “national sovereignty”.
I agree with scrapping the veto. Unanimous voting in the long run is simply untenable.
Instead, we should have a qualified majority system. EG 3/4 of state representatives representing 3/4 of the EU’s population. This way, small countries still have power (the vast majority of EU states are small) while larger states also have power (any 2 large EU states would be able to veto).
Yep, get rid of that and get a majority vote pls
Thank you for being reasonable, incoming German coalition.
That is the correct decision. To many voices each with a liberum veto wil create a ungovernable situation for the EU. Especially when it comes to foreign policy. Even today a single country can paralyse the entire decision making progress. This is just not manageble if we extent even further. Either we abolish the veto and use qualified majority or we stop expending. The end of the veto would also result in a far more democratic decision making on the EU level. But it probably wont happen we wil just be forced to stop expanding.
Of course.
Okay, great. Don’t be afraid of new members, better reform the system now. What are you waiting for?
Why again words, but no action?