Hey tutti,
Sono un falegname hobbista negli Stati Uniti che ama i tradizionali pantaloni per la lavorazione del legno del giornalista tedesco. Oltre ad essere estremamente pratici, sono innegabilmente malati da morire.
Stavo pensando di comprare un paio e di farmi spedire, ma dato che le tradizioni e il significato culturale dell’apprendistato errante sembrano essere un punto di orgoglio per le persone che lo attraversano, non volevo commettere un errore culturale e comprare qualcosa che ha bisogno di essere guadagnato.
Immagino che la mia domanda sia che andrebbe bene indossarli nonostante il fatto che non lo ho mai attraversato dall’apprendistato o farò parte di una gilda tradizionale?
Odierei che un falegname tedesco mi accuserà di rubato o qualcosa del genere 😂
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di HopefulHoldee
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Now that i look at it like that, that kinda looks fire, espicially taking new trends into account
>I’d hate for a German woodworker to accuse me of stolen valor or something 😂
“Stolen valor” is not a thing in Germany. If you like those pants buy them.
Go for it
Funny think is that the design especially with the zippers was originaly from shipmakers to help prevent drowning so all the other wood professions stole this style themselves at some point haha
Wearing a full “Kluft” (so the full getup) could be considered rude by some in Germany because you’d be posing as someone with an accreditation which you don’t actually have. But considering you’re talking about just the pants and also considering you’re in the US – where the journeyman system doesn’t really exist – nobody’s going to mistake you for an actual journeyman. So you’re not someone posing but someone interested in the journeyman culture, which is commendable in my book. I’d say go for it.
Black is for the chimney sweepers. Brown ( wood color, I would say ) is for the Zimmerman. Dark blue are plumbers. Not German, so look into it, if not, go with black.
Edit: https://massgestickt.de/blog/bedeutungen-der-farben-bei-der-berufsbekleidung/
I stand corrected generally brown, but black is also an option.
This will be okay in the US. Very unlikely to ever meet a German Wandergsell anyway, but If it happens, you will have something to talk.
It is indeed uncommon to wear them If youre not a craftsman in Germany. Some people in the alternative scene still do, i think thats okay, but only for people who really do something. If its only fashion, it seems awkward.
I was a German Carpenter myself, i dont wear them anymore because i have become i’ll and cant work anymore. I liked them when i was still fit, but now i think If would still wear them, it would Not be approproate anymore.
When i once was in france and belgium, i wore such trousers, but was frowned upon because some people there dont Like the German journeymen in their country. Maybe have had Bad experiences, some behave disorderly, or did not meet the expectations in work quality in these countries. There are also many weirdos and boasters among them nowadays.
Edith: If you wear these trousers, wear them for woodworking and do youre work well enough to deserve wearing them. Noone will accuse you for cultural appropriation then, especially Not on another continent. There are said to be Not more than 500 orderly Wanderers around anymore in the world. Have you ever met one?
no need to think too much about it. worst that could happen is that people think you know a bit about woodworking.
a traditional dress is required while on the walz, but it’s not a sign that someone has done a walz, especially if it’s just the pants.
the pants by themselves are also worn by other craftspeople. both professionally and casually. definitely a niche thing, but not unheard of.