L’uso del bagno basato sul sesso biologico, afferma il ministro: le donne trans dovrebbero usare i servizi igienici in base al loro sesso biologico, ha detto il ministro delle uguaglianze.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y42zzwylvo
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Oh, I’m sure this will all go *fantastically* well.
Going to love seeing those muscle bound men walking into the womens loo, I feel for trans women though, this campaign of hatred is going to get a lot of people assaulted and or killed, in some cases there will be sexual assault aswell, what a fucking step back for all rights even womens.
We need solutions that don’t dehumanize anyone. Convo like this should center respect. Maybe a more gender-neutral options would be great.
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This is going to go swimmingly.
Wherever possible scrap gendered toilets or have the same toilets with different access doors.
Edit:
Or . . .
* People who stand to piss
* People who sit to piss
* People who are having a dump
This isn’t complicated, it’s pressure groups looking for problems to exploit.
And this is a Labour government, we are talking about.
because when big bearded buff transmen will walk in women’s bathroom, it will be so much better…
we should just make all bathroom unisex at this point tbh. it’s just a place people go to take a dump anyway, why are they gender separated in the first place ?
All bathrooms should just be unisex/gender neutral to be honest.
Yeah i’m sure sending trans women into male bathrooms won’t cause any increase in malicious behavior towards them at all or won’t be used as justification for a bunch of other stuff like also harming a load of cis people as well
And what happens when a fully bearded, hairy, bald man walks into the women’s bathroom bc that’s his biological sex?
More importantly, if protecting women is the issue here, what happens when a man pretending to be a biological female goes into the women’s bathroom with nefarious intentions?
And alas, who the fuck cares? If I had an euro for every time one of my girlfriends came into the men’s with me to avoid lines in their own restrooms I’d be a millionaire by now. Live and let live people.
Why not just use mixed gender bathrooms instead?
Works in Scandinavia
All this trans stuff is really starting to get on my nerves.
There are far more important issues in the world and in Europe than this. When are we going to stop being distracted by something that affects a tiny fraction of the population?
And before anyone says it, no I’m not transphobic. I don’t give a fuck about what’s in your pants or whether you’re on hormonal treatment. Doesn’t matter one bit to me.
Fwiw, I think the solution to this is to have two rooms. One with urinals, and one with individual cubicles. Anyone is welcome to go into either room.
What’s the point of having gendered toilets anyways? If a man and a woman can use the same shitter at home, I’m sure they can do that at the shopping centre or wherever, too.
Who cares?
If someone looks like a man, please go to the mans room, if you look like a woman, please go to the women’s room
If we (in Europe) go into the same rabithole as the US, the EU solution will be very easy: unisex restrooms, just like the restrooms for disabled persons.
New employment opportunity – toilet guards! Access only after visual genital identification! /s
So transmen should use female toilet?! 🤦🏻♀️ Wait until those women who don’t want any transwomen in their space realise that they won’t be able to tell if the person coming in are male or not.
Having a Y chromosomes doesn’t make you a sexual predator! People should learn the difference between sex, gender and sexuality.
Every day is penis inspection day now!
I think the simplest solution is having completely neutral loos that are safe for everybody – several ways to do it and none of them difficult. Or we could argue online forever because idk
Just make the toilets uni sex, increase privacy of the stalls Ie floor to ceiling walls and doors. Anyone can use it then.
As a woman I’ve shared gym and work bathrooms/changerooms with trans women for decades. They have always been shy, often nervous, polite, neat, clean. Everyone minds their own damn business and goes into private cubicles. Wtf is everyone on about?
More identity politics to distract us from ever rising billionaire wealth inequality.
I solemnly swear not to give a shit about who is using the bathroom with me and will not narc on you because I am there to take a shit not give a shit.
Trans women should use toilets according to their biological sex, the equalities minister has said.
In response to the UK Supreme Court’s ruling that a woman is legally defined by biological sex, Bridget Phillipson stopped short of explicitly saying trans women should use the men’s toilets.
But she told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “The ruling was clear that provisions and services should be accessed on the basis of biological sex.”
Pushed further for clarification on whether a trans woman should use the men’s or women’s toilets she repeated: “The ruling is clear.”
Meanwhile, Sir Keir Starmer welcomed the ruling in his first comments on the matter, saying it gave “much needed clarity”
And here people were defending it in the comments saying bathrooms aren’t included in the law and that people were being far too worried about nothing
The trans discussion is nothing but a trojan horse. Don’t get sucked into it, this is exactly how Heritage foundation conquered america. Please don’t fall for it
This is NOT A SERIOUS ISSUE! This witch-hunt against trans people is fucking sick and any politican taking part in it should be thrown out of any serious governmental body. Genderless toilets have been a common thing in Sweden and other european nations for years without issues. How is it that only now the necessity of gendered toilets and the issue of trans people have spontaneously appeared?
It’s not an issue, it’s disguised persecution.
Oh my god are these really the pressing issues of our day?
thats not an equality minister
It’s a toilet it doesn’t care what sex you are.