Why are we boycotting American services again? If anything it should be manufactured products since those are the ones impacted by tariffs. And I still wouldn’t agree with the boycott
mumuno on
Obligatory -> ksuite has email as well. It’s more than just an office replacement.
Those images are always incomplete or somewhere wrong.
taceau on
Opera?
m0riyama on
for the email services, you can also add GMX, they are pretty good
karmakosmik1352 on
What’s worrying here is that most of the European alternatives don’t even ring a bell.
Ars3n on
And what about Reddit? 😅
Hot-Operation-8208 on
The vast majority of people want quality and convenience. If we cared about ethics we would already be boycotting 99% of companies.
ManonFire1213 on
No reddit on there.
FissileAlarm on
I cancelled my Google One subscription today!
DesperateSteak6628 on
Music: you might want to add soundcloud, German.
Also, need a section on VPN.
telcoman on
How about ckickable source instead of a picture?
National_Pay_5847 on
More ethical. Smfh. You people are brainwashed. Go eat your ethical Nestle cereal or drive your ethical Volkswagen
Romek_himself on
cant take this for serious as it has american products offered as option. I will not change to tidal for example
InsensitiveClod76 on
Week 67:
Chess.com -> lichess.org
😉
Emergency_Channel845 on
Olvid instead of watts app is excellent.
Rawesoul on
These crappy tips don’t work. By switching to EU-based applications for supposedly amazing privacy data protection, I ultimately lose in terms of convenience, mobility, and the quality of my software ecosystem. So I replace Office with LibreOffice. But how will I work in the cloud and on mobile devices? LibreOffice on mobile is only available for viewing, not editing. Replacing free music from YouTube with some paid services is just ridiculous. Also, a similar guide suggested replacing Google Maps with Organic Maps. Except the problem is that they lack content, don’t have proper company information and reviews, which is critically important.
And yes, where’s the alternative to Reddit? Where’s the alternative to Discord? Where’s the alternative to neural network services? Will you suggest the brainless mistral.ai? Seriously?
Such guides look like scraps from the master’s table for the sake of pride. Instead of pushing for tax cuts so young people in the EU don’t flee to the USA to launch their startups, instead of pushing for subsidizing software industries, you stupidly advise lowering your quality of life. Thanks, but no thanks.
MosGorila on
The paradox of the weak: to debate on an american network (reddit) how to escape from american networks
sopte666 on
Awesome guide!
Still, migrating an e-mail account that I’ve had for over 15y is a Herculean task I’m still very reluctant to go through…. any tips on that?
phaj19 on
Now we just need to start selling laptops and smartphones with all of those pre-installed.
Bloomhunger on
Not majority EU owned is a bit useless metric when talking about publicly listed companies, unless it’s a case such as a state keeping majority ownership, or something like that. Otherwise who owns it is not really their control, and it will most likely be fund management companies and institutional investors.
Tquilha on
Let’s see how I’m doing here…
My favourite browser is Firefos, has been so for a long time, my search engine is now Ecosia (needs some fine tuning), my e-mail is with Yahoo, will probably switch to sapo.pt.
I don’t use any music streaming or audio books, no issues there.
And I’ve been using Fedora GNU/Linux for a very long time and LibreOffice for all my office needs.
Maybe a distro hop to Suse or Mint…
NegativeViolinist412 on
Europe really missed the technology train. There are slim pickings for most software.
zoS2Yrsprs on
Thank you for the thorough research and the clean graphics. Much appreciated.
ciprule on
The level of hate devoted to Spotify (maybe deserved) in these charts, putting them in red, while letting US-based and US and Russia owned alternatives in “gray” is something I can’t understand. Double standards…
Money_Lavishness7343 on
Good intentions and all. But people don’t want to be activists. People want good products. Most European brands here don’t ring a bell because they’re not that good, not because they’ve not been marketed.
LibreOffice or MobiOffice is nowhere near even in features or polished close to GoogleDocs. It’s not even a replacement. One is online collaborator tool with fully fledged functionality, other is offline downloadable software. Most software here does not understand its client base well enough.
Proton is probably one of the actual few companies that has succeeded in making polished European reliable software that understands its clients well.
Activism is a factor you should take account to, but you can’t rely fully on it. I’m sorry but if I have an excel I want to spread around and collaborate with my colleagues, I ain’t uploading a libreoffice file, ask my colleagues to download it, open their libre office, edit it, push it back when they’re done and cycle goes on. I’m just gonna use GoogleDocs
Kralizek82 on
Why adding some US alternatives? If I wanted to buy US stuff, I’d keep what I use…
0xdef1 on
Sounds good, but doesn’t work for most. For example, MS Office and Google Docs are so advanced that a regular company cannot replace them with LibreOffice.
marsupialBasher on
Made in EU doesn’t make it ethical. It’s totally fine to use privacy focused US alternatives, like Signal for example.
I would so much rather use it, that some questionable proprietary app from Netherlands.
Wuktrio on
Also: Adobe -> 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
nicki419 on
Recommend LibreWolf as a debloated telemetry-free privacy-oriented Firefox port.
Isotheis on
Google Docs is mainly nice for editing things live together. Do we have anything like that?
We still lack something for Facebook itself too.
Kuutti__ on
This is such a rare oppotrunity to speak about Proton in general and their email. My story using their services started in 2019 (i believe) originally i subscribed their plan with cost of 5€. For a email only. Later they have introduced new services like VPN, calendar and cloud storage. (There is also more services i dont use) But these all were just included on my original plan free of charge. Their service is one of a kind and privacy is excellent. I highly encourage to check them out, especially if you value those
Doofucius on
Some of the better alternatives are hidden behind the links and should be on the main image.
LibreWolf is superior to FireFox.
Startpage is Dutch and sources results from a number of search engines. DDG has gone downhill and even Brave search is better than it.
I’ve switched to both LibreWolf and Startpage, and I can assure I lost nothing in usability or convenience.
As for OS, this is a personal taste matter, but EndeavourOS has all the benefits of Arch without the initial hurdles. It takes a few weeks to pick up fully of you’re familiar with PC OSs, and the “techiest” thing you typically need to do is updating software using simple command line commands. I’m never going back to Windows after trying it out.
Giosefr on
Why not fedora on OS?
Dd_8630 on
I get it, but you can prise Excel from my cold dead fingers.
Firefox being on the list despite being America made me laugh. FF forever!
Lurking_report on
Deezer is owned by an US company though.
Also, maybe you can add Openoffice as Word/M$ Office alternative?
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Obligatory r/BuyFromEU
About music streaming, there’s also
🇮🇹
https://esound.app/
its annual subscription is around 15€
For OSs a more EU based option would be SUSE.
Why are we boycotting American services again? If anything it should be manufactured products since those are the ones impacted by tariffs. And I still wouldn’t agree with the boycott
Obligatory -> ksuite has email as well. It’s more than just an office replacement.
Those images are always incomplete or somewhere wrong.
Opera?
for the email services, you can also add GMX, they are pretty good
What’s worrying here is that most of the European alternatives don’t even ring a bell.
And what about Reddit? 😅
The vast majority of people want quality and convenience. If we cared about ethics we would already be boycotting 99% of companies.
No reddit on there.
I cancelled my Google One subscription today!
Music: you might want to add soundcloud, German.
Also, need a section on VPN.
How about ckickable source instead of a picture?
More ethical. Smfh. You people are brainwashed. Go eat your ethical Nestle cereal or drive your ethical Volkswagen
cant take this for serious as it has american products offered as option. I will not change to tidal for example
Week 67:
Chess.com -> lichess.org
😉
Olvid instead of watts app is excellent.
These crappy tips don’t work. By switching to EU-based applications for supposedly amazing privacy data protection, I ultimately lose in terms of convenience, mobility, and the quality of my software ecosystem. So I replace Office with LibreOffice. But how will I work in the cloud and on mobile devices? LibreOffice on mobile is only available for viewing, not editing. Replacing free music from YouTube with some paid services is just ridiculous. Also, a similar guide suggested replacing Google Maps with Organic Maps. Except the problem is that they lack content, don’t have proper company information and reviews, which is critically important.
And yes, where’s the alternative to Reddit? Where’s the alternative to Discord? Where’s the alternative to neural network services? Will you suggest the brainless mistral.ai? Seriously?
Such guides look like scraps from the master’s table for the sake of pride. Instead of pushing for tax cuts so young people in the EU don’t flee to the USA to launch their startups, instead of pushing for subsidizing software industries, you stupidly advise lowering your quality of life. Thanks, but no thanks.
The paradox of the weak: to debate on an american network (reddit) how to escape from american networks
Awesome guide!
Still, migrating an e-mail account that I’ve had for over 15y is a Herculean task I’m still very reluctant to go through…. any tips on that?
Now we just need to start selling laptops and smartphones with all of those pre-installed.
Not majority EU owned is a bit useless metric when talking about publicly listed companies, unless it’s a case such as a state keeping majority ownership, or something like that. Otherwise who owns it is not really their control, and it will most likely be fund management companies and institutional investors.
Let’s see how I’m doing here…
My favourite browser is Firefos, has been so for a long time, my search engine is now Ecosia (needs some fine tuning), my e-mail is with Yahoo, will probably switch to sapo.pt.
I don’t use any music streaming or audio books, no issues there.
And I’ve been using Fedora GNU/Linux for a very long time and LibreOffice for all my office needs.
Maybe a distro hop to Suse or Mint…
Europe really missed the technology train. There are slim pickings for most software.
Thank you for the thorough research and the clean graphics. Much appreciated.
The level of hate devoted to Spotify (maybe deserved) in these charts, putting them in red, while letting US-based and US and Russia owned alternatives in “gray” is something I can’t understand. Double standards…
Good intentions and all. But people don’t want to be activists. People want good products. Most European brands here don’t ring a bell because they’re not that good, not because they’ve not been marketed.
LibreOffice or MobiOffice is nowhere near even in features or polished close to GoogleDocs. It’s not even a replacement. One is online collaborator tool with fully fledged functionality, other is offline downloadable software. Most software here does not understand its client base well enough.
Proton is probably one of the actual few companies that has succeeded in making polished European reliable software that understands its clients well.
Activism is a factor you should take account to, but you can’t rely fully on it. I’m sorry but if I have an excel I want to spread around and collaborate with my colleagues, I ain’t uploading a libreoffice file, ask my colleagues to download it, open their libre office, edit it, push it back when they’re done and cycle goes on. I’m just gonna use GoogleDocs
Why adding some US alternatives? If I wanted to buy US stuff, I’d keep what I use…
Sounds good, but doesn’t work for most. For example, MS Office and Google Docs are so advanced that a regular company cannot replace them with LibreOffice.
Made in EU doesn’t make it ethical. It’s totally fine to use privacy focused US alternatives, like Signal for example.
I would so much rather use it, that some questionable proprietary app from Netherlands.
Also: Adobe -> 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Recommend LibreWolf as a debloated telemetry-free privacy-oriented Firefox port.
Google Docs is mainly nice for editing things live together. Do we have anything like that?
We still lack something for Facebook itself too.
This is such a rare oppotrunity to speak about Proton in general and their email. My story using their services started in 2019 (i believe) originally i subscribed their plan with cost of 5€. For a email only. Later they have introduced new services like VPN, calendar and cloud storage. (There is also more services i dont use) But these all were just included on my original plan free of charge. Their service is one of a kind and privacy is excellent. I highly encourage to check them out, especially if you value those
Some of the better alternatives are hidden behind the links and should be on the main image.
LibreWolf is superior to FireFox.
Startpage is Dutch and sources results from a number of search engines. DDG has gone downhill and even Brave search is better than it.
I’ve switched to both LibreWolf and Startpage, and I can assure I lost nothing in usability or convenience.
As for OS, this is a personal taste matter, but EndeavourOS has all the benefits of Arch without the initial hurdles. It takes a few weeks to pick up fully of you’re familiar with PC OSs, and the “techiest” thing you typically need to do is updating software using simple command line commands. I’m never going back to Windows after trying it out.
Why not fedora on OS?
I get it, but you can prise Excel from my cold dead fingers.
Firefox being on the list despite being America made me laugh. FF forever!
Deezer is owned by an US company though.
Also, maybe you can add Openoffice as Word/M$ Office alternative?
Google Docs / Notion Alternative: Docs
https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/login/
Officially supported by EU <3
Waterfox and Zen Browser are not European, they are just Firefox skins, which is American.
And which of the European ones aren’t in bed with the genocidal Israeli regime? This is the main criteria for a lot of people.
Bill Gates is profoundly anti Trump. Not sure why boycott Windows. To push him towards Trump?