Ciao Redditor,
Ho scoperto che ci sono perdite di elettricità nel mio appartamento. Nell’immagine caricata (screenshot di un video che ho fatto), ci sono 120 V tra la lavastoviglie e il forno! Fondamentalmente alcuni elettrodomestici in cucina lo sono "vivere" e può essere fuliciato. (Sono già rimasto scioccato, quindi ho iniziato a misurare). Penso che quello che sta succedendo sia quello "Linea di terra" è collegato a una delle linee elettriche e quindi gli alloggi per gli elettrodomestici sono in diretta. Non solo quei due, ma anche più elettrodomestici.
Ho preso alcuni video e l’ho inviato al padrone di casa alcuni mesi fa. Il proprietario afferma di aver chiesto a un eletico di questo, e ha detto che la sua risposta era qualcosa di simile: "È un vecchio edificio e hanno dovuto stabilire connessioni del genere, è normale". Quindi il proprietario ha affermato che è normale e non ha fatto nulla.
Per me, questo non è sicuramente normale. Quanto è critica questa situazione? Dovrei accettarlo così com’è, o c’è qualcosa che posso fare?
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di monox-gg
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Absolutely not normal, and a liability that your landlord should address immediately. No idea about the legal situation here, but maybe you can even get an electrician in and tell them to send the bill to the landlord (but I recommend checking with a legal professional)
what the hell… this can be really really dangerous. your landlord has to fix that right now!
What happens if you put a load parallel to the measurement? Can you measure with a “Duspol”? Does it trigger the RCD?
I’d assume that the PE is interrupted somewhere or missing. It’s a topic for your landlord and an electrician then.
How old is the electrical installation?
It’s a hazard that can be potentially deadly, even with an RCD that’s hopefully installed and working.
What the electrician meant, if your landlord even asked one, is, that in the past often the earth was used as a regular “Phase” to cut costs. This is definitely not okay, since some appliances need a functioning PE to prevent exactly that from happening.
I’d suggest asking the Mieterbund, if further demands by you are not met. Stay safe.
Check the voltage between each appliance’s housing and the ground pin a known working outlet (note: the two side pins of the outlet are the ground pins). That should give you a more definitive answer which appliance is mis-wired, and whether either of them is actually mis-wired or not.
> It an old building, and they had to make connections like that
No, they didn’t have to: that claim is what we in my country of birth call “bollocks”. The whole point of the earth line is to make electric shocks less likely. If it’s an old building it’s very likely the wiring is dangerously substandard and was probably put in by somebody who didn’t know what they were doing, and that has to be fixed ASAP before somebody gets seriously hurt.
Inform the landlord in writing what the problem is and set a specific deadline for the repairs to be made — I’d say, given the serious risk to yourself and anyone else in the apartment, you can make that deadline very tight. If the landlord fails to comply, get an electrician in as a matter of urgency and then bill the landlord.
It may be a simple easily-fixed piece of botched wiring, but if you’re unlucky it may need wires to be ripped out of the walls. I believe if the necessary repairs mean the apartment is temporarily uninhabitable, the landlord has to find you alternative accommodation, but IANAL so don’t take my word for it.
If you haven’t done so already, you should join a local renters’ association (“Mieterverein”). They can offer you help and advice for situations like this.
first you ask your landlord to send help. if he don’t respond, you inform him that you will order an eletrician in 2 weeks (give a clear but realistic deadline) if he don’t act.
also you state that if the eletrician (you hire) find any serious problems, you will bill the eletrician cost to the landlord.
make all statements written and keep everything for later.