The fact that he repeatedly mentions that nobody threw a life ring is pretty damning.
Dublinwookie on
That’s grim reading. How on earth did no one think to thread a buoy in.
guinnessarse on
It’s mad that only a few weeks ago somebody posted here complaining about people abusing a life ring in Cork.
Really tragic occurrence, but just goes to show that no corners should be cut when it comes to water safety. (Not insinuating that the life ring in this situation was stolen, just commenting on their significance)
cuchulainn1984 on
I read this earlier. It’s a pretty damning indictment of the people involved that they grabbed their phones and recorded, but not one tried to grab a lifebuoy and throw it in. maybe if they recorded themselves being a hero, they might have got that sweet, sweet ego boost they so obviously craved.
LucyVialli on
I can’t understand that kind of mentality. How would someone even share or tag that?!
“Look at this! Filmed in Cork today, man drowns while we all gawk at him and no-one helps! Wild!”
What the eff is wrong with people.
ImpossibleScallion68 on
Fuck me I can’t believe that no body tried to help. First I hears of this.
gokurotfl on
People are messed up. I’ll never forget how there was a guy trying to commit a suicide in the bathroom on my flight home and the woman seating next to me (looked like in her 50s) started recording it on her phone when the medics were taking him to the hospital after we had an emergency landing in Amsterdam. I felt like telling her off but that would make the rest of the flight too awkward.
champagneface on
This is really horrifying. What a sad state of affairs for humanity.
SolisArgentum on
Fucking godawful, and then it’ll be circling online in places like whatsapp and other social media sites, meanwhile the victims family is doing everything they can to get the footage taken down.
chonkykais16 on
Good lord that’s fucked up
EconomistBeginning63 on
Fucking ghouls
Artistic-Yoghurt-949 on
Absolute scumbag behaviour what has happened to us as a society that people first thought is , “I must video another human in there last moments ” WTF
RemnantOfSpotOn on
A fuckin Black Mirror world we live in….launch them Putin all at the same time; values and morals decline are way beyond saving.
RIP young man
Isaidahip on
This is brutally sad. Not helping someone in their hour of need , you wouldn’t hear of that during the dark ages.
mongo_ie on
Imagine loosing a loved one and knowing that recordings of it are being sent around for entertainment. Heartbreaking.
Feeling-Decision-902 on
This is absolutely horrific, I’m so sorry for that man and his family and shame on all the bystanders and spectators
Significant_Stop723 on
Black mirror had a very similar episode. People are brain dead, social media credits over common sense and empathy. RIP that young man.
Responsible_Cell_553 on
They should be round up and shot
DorkusMalorkus89 on
Society has developed a social media sickness, it’s grim as fuck and only going to get worse.
Desperate-Dark-5773 on
This is outrageous. That poor man deserved a lot more in his dying moments. I read this earlier and it made me feel physically sick
Ulysses1978ii on
That’s pretty fucked lads. I know you love to take the piss but JFC.
YuriLR on
Social ostracism should not be confused with legal and police action. Is it completely morally reprehensible that people are filming a person drowning and posting it? Yes. But this should have nothing to do with the state acting on it.
It’s ridiculous the level of censorship and lack of transparency the Garda and the courts engage here. It’s something that is insanely abused to keep the shit that goes on in Ireland behind the curtains.
Now downvote me, I don’t care.
rougeglinda on
You’d like to think if you were in a life and death situation and there was a crowd of people witnessing it someone would help. This is utterly depressing.
jamster126 on
Why did nobody get in to help?
Brave-Trouble-9171 on
Should be made an offence. Punishable with a massive fine and community service. In Germany it’s illegal to film the aftermath of a road accident. Sad world that they had to make it illegal. Sick pathetic people out there that crave attention. Main characters that think theyll get views and messages asking them are they ok after seeing some poor soul dead
sparksAndFizzles on
I donno, this place can be wild sometimes. I remember years ago my late mother fell over on the street. She was a very well turned out, typical 50-something year old at the time and she was having cardiac difficulties. She’d just come out of the hair dressers so was in no way looking ‘scruffy’ or anything like that and she got suddenly very dizzy and tumbled, cutting her arms and everything. People pointed and laughed at her rather than rendering aid. She was being harangued by a bunch of teenagers before some woman came rushing to her rescue and got her sitting up on a step and called an ambulance.
She said she had some bitch shouting “did ya have too many drinks for lunch, love!” at her.
No doubt if it had occurred now she’d have been all over TikTok.
I think sometimes we clap ourselves on the back for being ‘lovely’ but in my experience doesn’t always follow through to reality. People walk away from and step past / turn away from any issues they see.
Big urban areas in particular here are often not very helpful at all.
WirelessThingy on
What – and I mean this in every sense of the word – the fuck.
Secret_Photograph364 on
This is pretty dystopian
Eir-Coconut9099 on
Imagine your last moments on this planet looking up at some cnut standing beside a lifebuoy recording you
A good few years ago, I was called to the scene of an accident. I wasn’t a first responder or anything of the sort, it was someone belonging to me.
Nobody was hurt (THANKS BE TO GOD and I can’t say that enough) but the driver was really shaken and I was consoling them and trying to help them.
A crowd had gathered as it was quite a public area which to be fair, didn’t bother me too much, it was quite the scene and I myself would have stopped if I was walking by. (Again, thank you God for no one being hurt).
However, I witnessed a local person parading around with her phone suspiciously aloft in front of her chest, as if she was smartly concealing the fact she was recording.
Initially, I just ignored it and focused my efforts with the driver. However, I glanced back to see she was about 3 metres away with her camera facing myself and the driver in shock.
I called a Garda over as where she was placed would certainly have been behind a cordon if there was one. Her got her to leave.
I went onto her Facebook later and she had live streamed the whole aftermath, including me trying to calm a driver who’d just been through something horrendously traumatic. We weren’t in the background, we were the sole focus of the video in that timeframe.
I was enraged by it really and I didn’t know what I could do because it was a public place so there was no illegal element to it, just a low, cowardly act to broadcast it.
When I went onto her profile again, it was gone.
People love recording shit and sharing it, I can’t say Im innocent in viewing stuff like that but fuck, I don’t think I could ever whip out my phone and be the one who records it.
cacamilis22 on
I would not be jumping in but I certainly wouldn’t be bloody recording it. People these days are just obsessed with recording things. Who are they going to show it to and when? After dinner?
dropthecoin on
This is a horrible situation. But I wonder how many people actually seeing this happen really understood the seriousness of the difficulty that this man was having in the water. I’ve seen many instances of diagrams and videos showing people how to identify when someone is actually drowning because often people don’t really understand what it’s like in real life. They might have some impression of what they think it is from TV or movies.
Either way a very sad event.
Salaas on
Honestly this mentality is alien to me and I’d bet it’s alien to alot of others.
When you see someone drowning you don’t think to film it you look to see if help is already being provided and if not you take action. Once it’s done and the person is saved you tend to bugger off back to what you were doing before it happened.
But since the topic is here going to provide advice to anyone who might come across this scenario.
Never get into the water on a river rescue.
Unless you know what you are doing you have a high chance of getting into difficulty yourself and making matters worse or drowning yourself.
Also note a drowning person will grab anything and try to climb it to get out of the water so if you swim up to them they could climb you and hold you down trying to save themselves at detriment to you.
There have been several cases where the rescuer drowned and died while the first person survives.
So again don’t get into the water!
Here is what you can do though, note this is not a step by step process, multiple things you’d do together.
1. Keep your eyes on the person, they could get pulled under in a second and that second could count. If someone if with you have them do same.
2. Call emergency services. The sooner this is done the faster the response and higher the chances of successful rescue.
3. Communicate with the person, shout out to them and keep talking to them. Often people become disoriented when drowning and could swim away from shore in this state. You talking to them will help guide and encourage them.
You tell them emergency services are on the way you tell them to listen to your voice and swim towards it, you confirm their swimming in right direction or wrong. You let them know your throwing out a rope, say whatever just keep talking to them and keep commands simple.
If note when getting them to swim towards you don’t have them swim against the current or tide as they’ll tire out fast, just have them swim in general to shore not a fixed point.
Try to keep it as one person talking to avoid confusion.
4. If someone with you they can do step 2 as you get a life buoy. They are all along the river so should find one easily enough. If none is available a rope would also do.
Before throwing it out to the person ensure one end of the rope is secured either tied to something or if nothing to secure to have your foot firmly on it so when you throw it you don’t loose the buoy if you miss. This allows you to pull it back and try again or if successfully caught by the person you can pull them in.
5. When pulling the buoy if the person is holding it do it smooth and slow. They will be exhausted and might not have strength to firmly grip the buoy so a quick jerk would pull it out of their arms.
6. If you get them to the wall try to pull them to where there is steps, ladder or a pontoon. Basically anything that makes it easier for them to get out of the water or at very least hold onto so their not using energy swimming and wait for rescue.
At this point you can physically help them but be careful as some could knock you into the water in their panic to get out of the water.
7. If you manage to get them out of the water, your next job is to warm them up. Hypothermia can kill just as well as drowning, so wrap them up and keep them conscious.
If need more information please reach out to Irish water safety and doing even a basic course.
I also recommend people learning first aid and cpr, their not wasted skills even if your never in a situation to use them as its like seatbelts, you hope to never need them but it’s good their there.
Opening-Acadia-2132 on
There’s an article on breakingnews.ie, his mother called into the radio and spoke about this.. absolutely heartbreaking !!! A brave woman speaking out about this after experiencing the sudden loss of her child..
Fucking disgusting and disgraceful behaviour…I did workplace fire training about 10 years ago and the firefighter/rescue worker doing it said that this was the biggest issue they faced when dealing with incidents…even then
This needs to stop, people need to cop the fuck on!!! Just cos you have equipment that can record, does not mean you’re ENTITLED to record everything and anything you want!!! I mean this is all recording equipment these days, not just phones!!!You’re a prick if you do feel this way!
TheSameButBetter on
It scares me to think that if I had a medical emergency or was part of a accident in a public space and there’s a high likelihood that people would start filming me rather than helping me.
I kind of feel there should be some sort of good Samaritan laws that state that your first priority when faced with an emergency is to try and help the people involved and also making it illegal to distribute footage of someone in serious distress.
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What kind of sick fuck would think of doing that?
For “internet bragging rights”?
Should be clipped round the ear
The fact that he repeatedly mentions that nobody threw a life ring is pretty damning.
That’s grim reading. How on earth did no one think to thread a buoy in.
It’s mad that only a few weeks ago somebody posted here complaining about people abusing a life ring in Cork.
Really tragic occurrence, but just goes to show that no corners should be cut when it comes to water safety. (Not insinuating that the life ring in this situation was stolen, just commenting on their significance)
I read this earlier. It’s a pretty damning indictment of the people involved that they grabbed their phones and recorded, but not one tried to grab a lifebuoy and throw it in. maybe if they recorded themselves being a hero, they might have got that sweet, sweet ego boost they so obviously craved.
I can’t understand that kind of mentality. How would someone even share or tag that?!
“Look at this! Filmed in Cork today, man drowns while we all gawk at him and no-one helps! Wild!”
What the eff is wrong with people.
Fuck me I can’t believe that no body tried to help. First I hears of this.
People are messed up. I’ll never forget how there was a guy trying to commit a suicide in the bathroom on my flight home and the woman seating next to me (looked like in her 50s) started recording it on her phone when the medics were taking him to the hospital after we had an emergency landing in Amsterdam. I felt like telling her off but that would make the rest of the flight too awkward.
This is really horrifying. What a sad state of affairs for humanity.
Fucking godawful, and then it’ll be circling online in places like whatsapp and other social media sites, meanwhile the victims family is doing everything they can to get the footage taken down.
Good lord that’s fucked up
Fucking ghouls
Absolute scumbag behaviour what has happened to us as a society that people first thought is , “I must video another human in there last moments ” WTF
A fuckin Black Mirror world we live in….launch them Putin all at the same time; values and morals decline are way beyond saving.
RIP young man
This is brutally sad. Not helping someone in their hour of need , you wouldn’t hear of that during the dark ages.
Imagine loosing a loved one and knowing that recordings of it are being sent around for entertainment. Heartbreaking.
This is absolutely horrific, I’m so sorry for that man and his family and shame on all the bystanders and spectators
Black mirror had a very similar episode. People are brain dead, social media credits over common sense and empathy. RIP that young man.
They should be round up and shot
Society has developed a social media sickness, it’s grim as fuck and only going to get worse.
This is outrageous. That poor man deserved a lot more in his dying moments. I read this earlier and it made me feel physically sick
That’s pretty fucked lads. I know you love to take the piss but JFC.
Social ostracism should not be confused with legal and police action. Is it completely morally reprehensible that people are filming a person drowning and posting it? Yes. But this should have nothing to do with the state acting on it.
It’s ridiculous the level of censorship and lack of transparency the Garda and the courts engage here. It’s something that is insanely abused to keep the shit that goes on in Ireland behind the curtains.
Now downvote me, I don’t care.
You’d like to think if you were in a life and death situation and there was a crowd of people witnessing it someone would help. This is utterly depressing.
Why did nobody get in to help?
Should be made an offence. Punishable with a massive fine and community service. In Germany it’s illegal to film the aftermath of a road accident. Sad world that they had to make it illegal. Sick pathetic people out there that crave attention. Main characters that think theyll get views and messages asking them are they ok after seeing some poor soul dead
I donno, this place can be wild sometimes. I remember years ago my late mother fell over on the street. She was a very well turned out, typical 50-something year old at the time and she was having cardiac difficulties. She’d just come out of the hair dressers so was in no way looking ‘scruffy’ or anything like that and she got suddenly very dizzy and tumbled, cutting her arms and everything. People pointed and laughed at her rather than rendering aid. She was being harangued by a bunch of teenagers before some woman came rushing to her rescue and got her sitting up on a step and called an ambulance.
She said she had some bitch shouting “did ya have too many drinks for lunch, love!” at her.
No doubt if it had occurred now she’d have been all over TikTok.
I think sometimes we clap ourselves on the back for being ‘lovely’ but in my experience doesn’t always follow through to reality. People walk away from and step past / turn away from any issues they see.
Big urban areas in particular here are often not very helpful at all.
What – and I mean this in every sense of the word – the fuck.
This is pretty dystopian
Imagine your last moments on this planet looking up at some cnut standing beside a lifebuoy recording you
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffetIbzyK8
Need to do more of this in Ireland
The fuck is wrong with people?
A good few years ago, I was called to the scene of an accident. I wasn’t a first responder or anything of the sort, it was someone belonging to me.
Nobody was hurt (THANKS BE TO GOD and I can’t say that enough) but the driver was really shaken and I was consoling them and trying to help them.
A crowd had gathered as it was quite a public area which to be fair, didn’t bother me too much, it was quite the scene and I myself would have stopped if I was walking by. (Again, thank you God for no one being hurt).
However, I witnessed a local person parading around with her phone suspiciously aloft in front of her chest, as if she was smartly concealing the fact she was recording.
Initially, I just ignored it and focused my efforts with the driver. However, I glanced back to see she was about 3 metres away with her camera facing myself and the driver in shock.
I called a Garda over as where she was placed would certainly have been behind a cordon if there was one. Her got her to leave.
I went onto her Facebook later and she had live streamed the whole aftermath, including me trying to calm a driver who’d just been through something horrendously traumatic. We weren’t in the background, we were the sole focus of the video in that timeframe.
I was enraged by it really and I didn’t know what I could do because it was a public place so there was no illegal element to it, just a low, cowardly act to broadcast it.
When I went onto her profile again, it was gone.
People love recording shit and sharing it, I can’t say Im innocent in viewing stuff like that but fuck, I don’t think I could ever whip out my phone and be the one who records it.
I would not be jumping in but I certainly wouldn’t be bloody recording it. People these days are just obsessed with recording things. Who are they going to show it to and when? After dinner?
This is a horrible situation. But I wonder how many people actually seeing this happen really understood the seriousness of the difficulty that this man was having in the water. I’ve seen many instances of diagrams and videos showing people how to identify when someone is actually drowning because often people don’t really understand what it’s like in real life. They might have some impression of what they think it is from TV or movies.
Either way a very sad event.
Honestly this mentality is alien to me and I’d bet it’s alien to alot of others.
When you see someone drowning you don’t think to film it you look to see if help is already being provided and if not you take action. Once it’s done and the person is saved you tend to bugger off back to what you were doing before it happened.
But since the topic is here going to provide advice to anyone who might come across this scenario.
Never get into the water on a river rescue.
Unless you know what you are doing you have a high chance of getting into difficulty yourself and making matters worse or drowning yourself.
Also note a drowning person will grab anything and try to climb it to get out of the water so if you swim up to them they could climb you and hold you down trying to save themselves at detriment to you.
There have been several cases where the rescuer drowned and died while the first person survives.
So again don’t get into the water!
Here is what you can do though, note this is not a step by step process, multiple things you’d do together.
1. Keep your eyes on the person, they could get pulled under in a second and that second could count. If someone if with you have them do same.
2. Call emergency services. The sooner this is done the faster the response and higher the chances of successful rescue.
3. Communicate with the person, shout out to them and keep talking to them. Often people become disoriented when drowning and could swim away from shore in this state. You talking to them will help guide and encourage them.
You tell them emergency services are on the way you tell them to listen to your voice and swim towards it, you confirm their swimming in right direction or wrong. You let them know your throwing out a rope, say whatever just keep talking to them and keep commands simple.
If note when getting them to swim towards you don’t have them swim against the current or tide as they’ll tire out fast, just have them swim in general to shore not a fixed point.
Try to keep it as one person talking to avoid confusion.
4. If someone with you they can do step 2 as you get a life buoy. They are all along the river so should find one easily enough. If none is available a rope would also do.
Before throwing it out to the person ensure one end of the rope is secured either tied to something or if nothing to secure to have your foot firmly on it so when you throw it you don’t loose the buoy if you miss. This allows you to pull it back and try again or if successfully caught by the person you can pull them in.
5. When pulling the buoy if the person is holding it do it smooth and slow. They will be exhausted and might not have strength to firmly grip the buoy so a quick jerk would pull it out of their arms.
6. If you get them to the wall try to pull them to where there is steps, ladder or a pontoon. Basically anything that makes it easier for them to get out of the water or at very least hold onto so their not using energy swimming and wait for rescue.
At this point you can physically help them but be careful as some could knock you into the water in their panic to get out of the water.
7. If you manage to get them out of the water, your next job is to warm them up. Hypothermia can kill just as well as drowning, so wrap them up and keep them conscious.
If need more information please reach out to Irish water safety and doing even a basic course.
I also recommend people learning first aid and cpr, their not wasted skills even if your never in a situation to use them as its like seatbelts, you hope to never need them but it’s good their there.
There’s an article on breakingnews.ie, his mother called into the radio and spoke about this.. absolutely heartbreaking !!! A brave woman speaking out about this after experiencing the sudden loss of her child..
Fucking disgusting and disgraceful behaviour…I did workplace fire training about 10 years ago and the firefighter/rescue worker doing it said that this was the biggest issue they faced when dealing with incidents…even then
This needs to stop, people need to cop the fuck on!!! Just cos you have equipment that can record, does not mean you’re ENTITLED to record everything and anything you want!!! I mean this is all recording equipment these days, not just phones!!!You’re a prick if you do feel this way!
It scares me to think that if I had a medical emergency or was part of a accident in a public space and there’s a high likelihood that people would start filming me rather than helping me.
I kind of feel there should be some sort of good Samaritan laws that state that your first priority when faced with an emergency is to try and help the people involved and also making it illegal to distribute footage of someone in serious distress.