Reform UK guadagna grandi guadagni nelle elezioni locali dell’Inghilterra quest’anno

This sub really should stop with the whinning. Bla bla Labor needs to deal with immigration to kill Reform bla bla. If you have more than three brain cells you know they won’t do this. Labor, alongside the various establishment parties in all of Europe, are only different on minor policy. When it comes to life altering politics they are all 100% in agreement on what should be done. Don’t like getting replaced by immigrants? Tough luck buddy it’s happening. And frankly why would they change their tune since they know you’ll vote for them anyway, as all they have to do to get rid of actual opposition is to yell Nazi or Russian plant.

OK sure, but the chances are that those gains have come almost completely from the Conservatives and that the gains for the Liberal Democrats and Greens have come from Labour.

All that’s happening is that people are continuing to hate on the Tories, and going to Reform, plus progressive people are frustrated by the new Labour government and going to one of the actual (at the moment) progressive parties, the LibDems or the Greens.

It’s important to note that this is also council elections and mayoral ones with only one parliament seat contested. The results for council elections can’t be used to extrapolate to parliament as people consistently vote differently for councillors and mayors than they do when it comes to a parliamentary general election.

Expected. People are tired of the other parties lying to them election after election on matters like immigration or cutting welfare so they (like many other countries in Europe) are voting reform not because they necessarily think they’re the best, but because they’re someone else.

Not surprising.

Stupid is, stupid does

The 51st state does not disappoint.

Mostly just flipping Cons though, and the Lib Dems are doing ok. Stay hopeful non fascist Brits

Wait, so the right wing just gained 1 seat basically lmao. But everyone and the media is framing this as the uncontested rise of the right and the downfall of the left.

God please get us Scots away from this toxic union

This is not the UK going MAGA. These were local elections in mostly Tory areas. Turnout was very low. If it signifies anything it is that the Tories – after over a decade in power and fucking things up royally are still deeply unpopular. They are too “woke” for the far right and too incompetent for anyone with a brain.

Labour have been disappointing so far but they have at least 3 more years to get their act together. Nigel Farage is a deeply polarising figure and despite his boasts and Putin’s money stands very little chance of ever getting into power thanks to our First Past the Post system.

I’m am so glad I left that sinking ship

Because **not-ukip** is so new and unique offering.

maybe liberal democracy really is cooked

It seems that after the Brexit they didn’t learn anything and decided to destroy completely their remained country.

No wonder if nearly all alternatives represent the same neoliberal type of government that have been ruining healthy Western politics for decades now.

And by ‘ruining’, I am not referring to immigration. I mean by taking over actual democratic party politicians and replacing them with corporate/cartel lobbyists – primarily the financial sector. Keir Starmer is literally OWNED by the CIty of London i.e. the banks, hedgefonds etc.

If the Brits kick him out, they will just get another Tory or Labour leader who serve the exact same masters… I wonder why the old parties keep going down this path – no matter how bvious it is that everyone hates them for doing so?

These super corrupt old parties have sealed their fate and deserve to collapse. The sooner the better.

But we are in desperate need of real political alternatives that aren’t fascist / right-wing autocrat bullshit movements… But perhaps we are too stupid to get ourselves out of this mess?

Neoliberalism has not done a single good thing in the 30-40 years we have lived under it. But it sure has done a lot of damage – without holding anybody in charge responsible for anything. Ever.

We are watching the long time coming fragmentation of the Labour electoral base:

– Actual progressives in the modern sense of the word (young, urban, educated, care about social issues) who are flocking to LibDems and Greens because Labour is proving not progressive enough.

– Old working class low educated who are socially conservative (often crossing from “conservative” to “bigoted”) who are flocking to Reform because they still think the clock can be rolled back decades, a service economy to become again an industrial/manufacturing economy, an aging society to keep functioning with neither pension cuts nor immigration etc etc.

Reform also get Tory voters who following the global trend, want to go even more far right.

Shoutout to the labour party for being quitw possibly the only party in the world that manages to be more incompetent than the American Democrats. A decade of tories shitting all over the UK and it took them what, a year, to start losing big to literal fascists

On the bright side the Lib Dems are gaining a lot too.

UK has a horrible electoral system (first past the post), I wonder what would be the real results if people could vote freely.