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    1. HydrolicKrane on

      “The **Soviet invasion of Poland** was a military operation by the Soviet Union without a formal declaration of war… The Red Army, which vastly outnumbered the Polish defenders, achieved its targets encountering only limited resistance. Some 320,000 Polish prisoners of war had been captured. The campaign of mass persecution in the newly acquired areas began immediately. In November 1939 the Soviet government ostensibly annexed the entire Polish territory under its control. Some 13.5 million Polish citizens who fell under the military occupation were made into new Soviet subjects following show elections conducted by the NKVD secret police in the atmosphere of terror.” ([Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland))

      Can more parallels be spotted?

      There is an article on the net with the same title that has little-known facts about Moscow allying itself with Hitler.

    2. isogaymer on

      War, like everything else we do as humans, is subject to the same creativity and innovation as anything else. Since we (as a species) have grown up making excuses for it (war), it should not be a surprise that we continue to find novel ways of doing so. The USSR was, at least in some senses, more a continuation of Russian imperialism than anything else, albeit one framed in terms of egalitarianism, so there can be no shock that they would ‘rebrand’ imperial exercises of power in manner that fit the new narrative. In this case, protection of minorities. We have seen this continue in the current century even as Russia has disavowed anything resembling the notional commitment to ‘equality’ that the USSR at least rhetorically embraced, probably to take advantage of the fact that the West had become more concerned with minority rights (again at least rhetorically).

      We have also seen Russian (and Israel, now the USA) become more invested in the concept of ethnicity and ethno/religious-nationalist discourse. See the justification for repeated incursions on sovereign nations independence carried out by Russia over many years, justified occasionally by claims of oppression of minorities (Russian speaking minorities). Similarly we see Israel now seizing and bombing large areas of Syria allegedly because they concerned about the minority Druze population.

      Maybe at some point people will notice that this is nothing new under the sun, and is simply a rebranding of tribal politics being utilized by those who see themselves as masters of lessers. Or perhaps we won’t, and given the trajectory visible in the USA, and frankly globally, it seems unlikely.

    3. Interesting-Ear7344 on

      Bro, poland literally invaded Western Belarus and western Ukraine 20 years earlier. That time USSR literally took its land back

    4. inokentii on

      Actually they used their playbook from invasion to Ukraine in 1917, when they were denying invasion and calling it a civil war. Take about minorities came later, then was replaced with NATO menace and now they don’t even bother with propaganda simply admitting that war is simply about imperialistic conquest and elimination of Ukrainian nation

    5. Estebaen_Jaime on

      I just want to remind you that Poland seized these lands as a result of the 1920 war with Soviet Russia. But that’s an unpopular fact that, however, there’s really nothing to argue against.

    6. Federal_Stop_4034 on

      Hitler used a similar story when he invaded Poland. Even the US used a similar story to legitimize their attack on Iraq (protecting women blabla). What do we learn from all of this? People have to be lied into wars.

    7. fickogames123 on

      Tbh jews in USSR poland were better off than in Nazi occupied Poland. Were they at all good? No, but they were better than the alternative.

      Of course its not an excuse, much better would be if USSR just helped Poland fight the Germans, or at least gave donations to their army, but alas that would probably lead USSR into worse position than what they were like during Operation Barbarosa.

    8. rpequiro on

      The situation in 1939 was vastly different from the Ukraine invasion. There was literally a World War starting, it was reasonable to take more extreme actions, also obviously in this case its fair to say minorities might be under threath, it’s not like the germans treated slaves well or the Jewish population.

      Frankly this seems more of the same reviosionism of history where we pretend like the Western countries (the UK and the US particulary) didn’t sign non aggresion pacts with Germany and rejected mutual defense alliances with the soviet Union. On fact they Soviets recognized the Nazi/Fascist danger very soon, the Commiterm even changed their stance on Alliances bettween Communist and other socialist parties to allow for left wing coalitions (leading to the popular fronts in both France and Spain) and the Soviets alongside Mexico were the only backers of the Spanish Republic against fascism in Spain.

    9. Lapkonium on

      OP is spreading Kremlin propaganda suggesting rightful Ukrainian land be returned to Polish colonisers. Why is this shit getting upvoted.

    10. Glad to know this means we’re still on the right side of history

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