In recent years the City of Warsaw has been consequently adopting the “hostile architecture” methods to limit the possible places for the homeless to sleep on. This is the newest example of this on Ratusz Arsenal station in the City center
Chuck-Finley69 on
We really need these over here
Rufian on
This is a metro station, not homeless shelter. We have shelters and all the services to help homeless people.
DryCloud9903 on
Well it’s also anti-disabled.
Some people with back conditions can’t stand/sit for long periods of time, and need to have some access to public spaces where they could lay down. Such armrests impede that
Such_Astronomer35 on
I wouldn’t call them “anti homeless” as homeless people can use them as intended with no issue. They’re anti people camping there.
OlegYY on
These are actually good, other people can normally sit at them.
ArtSmartAss on
There is zero problem with homelessness in Poland.
Gilet622 on
Do homeless people actually sleep there though? This always seems like the biggest Reddit circlejerk where people will see anything that isn’t a perfectly contoured bench and jump straight to talking like we’ve put an electric fence around everything.
This happened a few years ago here where some benches at a train station had arm rests with flower pots on them and people freaked out completely ignoring the fact that the station closes at night anyway
Also people like personal space so generally like when the bench has a divider of some kind so they don’t end up getting squeezed next to some stranger at busy times
AntonioClaus on
Better than in Hamburg where there are no seats at all at the station
fsedlak on
No, they’re dividers to prevent greedy bastards from taking the whole bench for themselves. They are not antisocial – quite the opposite!
WorldlyBuy1591 on
Cant you just sleep on the floor? How is metal bench better
Lorry_Al on
Homeless people can sit there too.
Mitologist on
Same in Germany.
RemnantOfSpotOn on
Well call me crazy but if i was homeless, i would find that space in the middle under back rest of both benches quite comfy… like little tent just armored… Some see obstacles others see opportunities.
Intelligent-Bit4250 on
As Jesus Christ famously said: fuck the homeless.
No but really, what is wrong with supposedly Christian nations treating people like this? Isn’t it bad enough for those people that they have to suffer the humiliation and difficulty of living on the streets? Why do people need to make their life that much worse? Let them lie on a bench, no people are hurt by this.
yeshuahanotsri on
It’s probably more comfortable and warmer in the middle behind the back rests. Nice off Warsaw to make little metal tents for the homeless.
Rich-Highway-1116 on
Or more accessible for infirm people who require a bit extra help getting up.
I can power myself up with just legs but some disabled people need to use legs and arms or a combination of legs and arms.
In your world homeless people get to lie down and the elderly or disabled don’t get to sit down.
texasgambler58 on
Those Poles keep making excellent decisions for their people.
BenScorpion on
Didnt know that the concept of armrests were anti-homeless
TlalocVirgie on
What’s stopping them from sleeping on the floor. That’s even more comfortable.
No-Bass-7323 on
based
Mihajlos7744 on
😂
Fiery_Hand on
I’ve lived in Warsaw and I’ve been to USA few times and let me tell you one thing.
Homeless of Poland and homeless of USA are so different kind of people.
Most homeless Americans I’ve seen and met where normal people… without homes.
I remember how much that struck me when I was on a walk and there was this a absolutely normal dude but walking into odd direction. I was shocked when he entered a tent, I’d never ever say he was homeless. There was no distinction how he looked, talked and smelled from all the other people.
Now in Warsaw… Well, we have this saying “żul jedzie tramwajem, a tramwaj jedzie żulem” – “a tramp rides a tram, a tram rides a tramp”. But “jedzie (rides)” has also a meaning that something’s is emanating a foul stench.
There are many homeless shelters in Warsaw open for people in need, but there’s one caveat. No alcohol. Warsaw homelessness problem is (partially) a choice. Lives ruined by alcoholism. These people weren’t ruined by a unexpected medical bill like it often happened in US. That cannot happen in Poland, general healthcare is provided for the citizens and jobless can apply for it too.
If there’s a homeless tramp in the tram, the smell is so rancid, so rank, it instantly causes gag reflex and eyes water. You enter with wrong door and you’re sticky with the odour.
These kind of people refuse the gov help, refuse shelters. Their mind is often so destroyed that they’re completely disconnected from reality. You can’t help those that don’t want help and society offering the help doesn’t want these people in public. Not only because of smell, but also for safety.
No-Advantage-579 on
Horrible.
TheDuckFarm on
There a tent in the middle of the two sides. How thoughtful.
Fly-away77 on
People who talk about “far-right” here are bunch of idiots. Warsaw has a leftist pro-EU pro-LGBT president 🤦♂️
Icy-Source-9768 on
Makes sense, why would you want homeless people sleeping in your metro stations?
w1987g on
They’re all over the place over here. I call them anti-fat people benches
Odd_Science5770 on
Well good, those are not meant to be beds for the homeless.
Complex-Call2572 on
Fair, they are for people who are travelling and waiting for their train, not for sleeping on.
wordswillneverhurtme on
So the homeless dude will sleep on the cold concrete instead. If they didn’t go to the shelter (probably because they’re an alcoholic and want to keep drinking) then they won’t go there even if there’s no bench.
Melmaq_02 on
The only people complaining about this are probably rich and privelaged enough that they never have to encounter aggresive homeless people in public transport. Now they want to tell us “the poors” how mean we are to them a we should probably let homeless do everything and even hug them or something
MidlandPark on
Calling every bench with an armrest ‘anti homeless’ is getting a bit silly
Atulin on
Nice, rare Warsaw W
d_T_73 on
that’s how you fight homelessness. Don’t try to do something to prevent it or help them – just make sure that their hard life becomes harder
pilldickle2048 on
Absolutely disgusting
vincesword on
“armrest” lol
Obi-Lan on
Flex them off.
Jussepapi on
Awh look, they built a little shelter with wings for s homeless person. Good on them!
Moosplauze on
So when you sit down you know that no homeless person peed their pants sleeping there last night AND you can rest your arm.
HmmOkButWhy on
r/HostileArchitecture
longerthanababysarm on
ayy Ratusz Arsena??
umotex12 on
Homeless always sleep in trains or in warm corners… I never saw a homeless anyone sleeping on benches there.
fugineero on
Now the homeless can practice calisthenics.
fixminer on
IMO, anti loitering architecture is good, if and only if comprehensive social programs to prevent homelessness exist. Nobody wants public places to be blocked by drug addicts who live in their own filth, but we have to eliminate the root cause. Only once that is done, it is perfectly valid to keep those few who refuse to be helped from abusing public infrastructure.
Wise_Use1012 on
Oh look a nice little cave I can sleep in
dustofdeath on
Only people i see sleeping on benches anywhere are random drunk from some party or crap.
Homeless find a better spot than a public, exposed bench.
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In recent years the City of Warsaw has been consequently adopting the “hostile architecture” methods to limit the possible places for the homeless to sleep on. This is the newest example of this on Ratusz Arsenal station in the City center
We really need these over here
This is a metro station, not homeless shelter. We have shelters and all the services to help homeless people.
Well it’s also anti-disabled.
Some people with back conditions can’t stand/sit for long periods of time, and need to have some access to public spaces where they could lay down. Such armrests impede that
I wouldn’t call them “anti homeless” as homeless people can use them as intended with no issue. They’re anti people camping there.
These are actually good, other people can normally sit at them.
There is zero problem with homelessness in Poland.
Do homeless people actually sleep there though? This always seems like the biggest Reddit circlejerk where people will see anything that isn’t a perfectly contoured bench and jump straight to talking like we’ve put an electric fence around everything.
This happened a few years ago here where some benches at a train station had arm rests with flower pots on them and people freaked out completely ignoring the fact that the station closes at night anyway
Also people like personal space so generally like when the bench has a divider of some kind so they don’t end up getting squeezed next to some stranger at busy times
Better than in Hamburg where there are no seats at all at the station
No, they’re dividers to prevent greedy bastards from taking the whole bench for themselves. They are not antisocial – quite the opposite!
Cant you just sleep on the floor? How is metal bench better
Homeless people can sit there too.
Same in Germany.
Well call me crazy but if i was homeless, i would find that space in the middle under back rest of both benches quite comfy… like little tent just armored… Some see obstacles others see opportunities.
As Jesus Christ famously said: fuck the homeless.
No but really, what is wrong with supposedly Christian nations treating people like this? Isn’t it bad enough for those people that they have to suffer the humiliation and difficulty of living on the streets? Why do people need to make their life that much worse? Let them lie on a bench, no people are hurt by this.
It’s probably more comfortable and warmer in the middle behind the back rests. Nice off Warsaw to make little metal tents for the homeless.
Or more accessible for infirm people who require a bit extra help getting up.
I can power myself up with just legs but some disabled people need to use legs and arms or a combination of legs and arms.
In your world homeless people get to lie down and the elderly or disabled don’t get to sit down.
Those Poles keep making excellent decisions for their people.
Didnt know that the concept of armrests were anti-homeless
What’s stopping them from sleeping on the floor. That’s even more comfortable.
based
😂
I’ve lived in Warsaw and I’ve been to USA few times and let me tell you one thing.
Homeless of Poland and homeless of USA are so different kind of people.
Most homeless Americans I’ve seen and met where normal people… without homes.
I remember how much that struck me when I was on a walk and there was this a absolutely normal dude but walking into odd direction. I was shocked when he entered a tent, I’d never ever say he was homeless. There was no distinction how he looked, talked and smelled from all the other people.
Now in Warsaw… Well, we have this saying “żul jedzie tramwajem, a tramwaj jedzie żulem” – “a tramp rides a tram, a tram rides a tramp”. But “jedzie (rides)” has also a meaning that something’s is emanating a foul stench.
There are many homeless shelters in Warsaw open for people in need, but there’s one caveat. No alcohol. Warsaw homelessness problem is (partially) a choice. Lives ruined by alcoholism. These people weren’t ruined by a unexpected medical bill like it often happened in US. That cannot happen in Poland, general healthcare is provided for the citizens and jobless can apply for it too.
If there’s a homeless tramp in the tram, the smell is so rancid, so rank, it instantly causes gag reflex and eyes water. You enter with wrong door and you’re sticky with the odour.
These kind of people refuse the gov help, refuse shelters. Their mind is often so destroyed that they’re completely disconnected from reality. You can’t help those that don’t want help and society offering the help doesn’t want these people in public. Not only because of smell, but also for safety.
Horrible.
There a tent in the middle of the two sides. How thoughtful.
People who talk about “far-right” here are bunch of idiots. Warsaw has a leftist pro-EU pro-LGBT president 🤦♂️
Makes sense, why would you want homeless people sleeping in your metro stations?
They’re all over the place over here. I call them anti-fat people benches
Well good, those are not meant to be beds for the homeless.
Fair, they are for people who are travelling and waiting for their train, not for sleeping on.
So the homeless dude will sleep on the cold concrete instead. If they didn’t go to the shelter (probably because they’re an alcoholic and want to keep drinking) then they won’t go there even if there’s no bench.
The only people complaining about this are probably rich and privelaged enough that they never have to encounter aggresive homeless people in public transport. Now they want to tell us “the poors” how mean we are to them a we should probably let homeless do everything and even hug them or something
Calling every bench with an armrest ‘anti homeless’ is getting a bit silly
Nice, rare Warsaw W
that’s how you fight homelessness. Don’t try to do something to prevent it or help them – just make sure that their hard life becomes harder
Absolutely disgusting
“armrest” lol
Flex them off.
Awh look, they built a little shelter with wings for s homeless person. Good on them!
So when you sit down you know that no homeless person peed their pants sleeping there last night AND you can rest your arm.
r/HostileArchitecture
ayy Ratusz Arsena??
Homeless always sleep in trains or in warm corners… I never saw a homeless anyone sleeping on benches there.
Now the homeless can practice calisthenics.
IMO, anti loitering architecture is good, if and only if comprehensive social programs to prevent homelessness exist. Nobody wants public places to be blocked by drug addicts who live in their own filth, but we have to eliminate the root cause. Only once that is done, it is perfectly valid to keep those few who refuse to be helped from abusing public infrastructure.
Oh look a nice little cave I can sleep in
Only people i see sleeping on benches anywhere are random drunk from some party or crap.
Homeless find a better spot than a public, exposed bench.
Cheaper that building a home, that’s for sure.