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    Il Belgio sostiene la creazione di un esercito europeo (sondaggio)

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    2. Juste_Milieu_25s on

      Do you know if this barometer exists for more countries in the Union?

      Thanks in advance.

    3. InspectorDull5915 on

      Makes sense when your army stands at 25,000 personnel.

    4. Wayoutofthewayof on

      EU army sounds good in theory but would be bureaucratic nightmare in practice.

    5. DisdudeWoW on

      belgium has nothing to loose and everything to gain makes sense, although i agree

    6. kohupiimakreem on

      Yeah, now ask this from countries bordering Russia and whether they are willing to give up their national militaries for it…

    7. CDdragon9 on

      Makes sense for us.
      Its not like our army could fight off a foreign power on our own.
      Unless its luxembourg trying to invade,i think we might have a chance then.

    8. DobleG42 on

      Let’s bring back proper labels on charts. This one has 3 percentages that don’t even add up to 100%. And 4 sectors on the actual chart that aren’t labeled well. I’m all for sexy infographic and this one looses some clarity points in my book.

    9. asexyshaytan on

      Belgium was created because the British didn’t want France or the Netherlands to be strong.

    10. temss_ on

      Belgium wants a EU military as long as someone else pays for it and someone else mans it would be a more accurate headline.

    11. BaritBrit on

      Yeah I bet they do. Another lavishly appointed HQ to be based in Brussels as well, no doubt. 

    13. alarming_wrong on

      they also coincidentally prepared a tender to supply beer to said big army

    14. Every-Artist-35 on

      Glorious idea, keep fucking with other peoples balls. Tried and tested way of doing things

    15. Expert-Length871 on

      Yes, of course.

      Now let them ask how many citizens of those countries that support a European army are willing to enlist. Let there be no question of restoring conscription where there was one.

      Not even on penalty of death would they go.

      And that, is the sad reality. The rest is speculation, ramblings and nonsense.

      In some countries, patriotism is considered a thing of ‘fascists’, something old-fashioned and reactionary. In others, it is simply not even considered. Let’s not talk about separatism… Which exist in several countries, in case you don’t remember.

      So if Europe wants its own army, it will be the old-fashioned way, with mercenaries.

      Who are we kidding? There is no possibility of a unified army. Only a NATO without Americans, or a new organisation. That’s all there is.

      Federalists should contribute with possible ideas. Not this.

    16. BadBadGrades on

      My opinion, for a Belgian myself. Logistically, instead of being a small part with different materials and protocols it would be better to have a larger unified system and just fund that(money and personal).

      If Anny neighbouring country would wanne take Belgium, they just be able to. Even if you would max the Belgium army.

    17. Equalsmsi2 on

      Who would be against when someone else is going to defend you while your army is heading home Friday after lunch?

    19. EUstrongerthanUS on

      NATO should consist of two pillars, the European and the American one. A relationship of equals. Europe’s destiny is certainly western, like the Americans, but our interests on a geopolitical level are not always identical. And the relationship could even turn adversarial at times, which is what’s happening now.

    21. Bumpy40k on

      I don’t think this is the best example, Belgium has nothing to lose by a European army

    22. bober8848 on

      I wonder if the main reason for it is a usual “if it’s “common” someone else would pay for it, not me” mindset?
      I saw a polls about Ukraine support with the same results about a months ago i believe: 80% thinks it need more support, 10% thinks their country should support Ukraine more.

    23. ShapeMcFee on

      They can’t still be talking about NATO, the idiot in the Whitehouse has surely killed that .

    24. omnitreex on

      Is this hypothetical EU army gonna include the whole of Europe or just EU members?

    25. Unbaguettable on

      i’m confused as to why a nato army has such low percentage. wouldn’t a NATO army make more sense? Not only in strength but it’s already a defence organisation, while the EU isn’t.

    26. DevitZzz on

      First start paying 2% of your GDP for military as agreed and have quick reaction forces ready to be deployed at any minute, then we can even think about starting such conversation. War in Europe for 3 years now and there are countries(1.3% Belgium) that still did not reach this MINIMUM threshold.

      Why European army can’t and won’t happen is the fact that none of the strongest EU armed forces want to give up their independence when it comes to making key decisions. Can’t imagine a situation where Belgium, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria or Slovenia(all way below 2%) have any say when it comes to what happens with my countries(Poland) military forces. It’s absurd.

    28. Fit_West_3769 on

      What if things change in the future and that army is Led by Le Pen or AfD?

    30. LudwigdeLieger on

      I am all for a common European army honestly. In fact the German-Dutch mixed 414 tank battalion is in my eyes a step that demonstrates it can be done.
      As someone in the reserves, I will fight and risk life and limb for both my countrymen and that of my fellow Europeans if called upon, but of course I hope that day never comes.

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